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      11-06-2018, 06:17 PM   #1
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Anyone have an issue getting their steering wheel on center after a front end alignment? Had my fronts replaced at 22,000 miles ( standard good year all season ) which then required a software update on the steering because I wasn't happy with the centering of the wheel. It's still not like it was prior to the alignment and IMO the software update merely masks the issue, by making the steering dynamics less precise.

I don't know... looking to hear if anyone has a similar experience and what might have been done to resolve.
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I went to 2 local shops do front alignment, both times steering wheel was not in center, than took it to dealer, steering wheel is dead center, and car feels like it wants to go straight. Local shops put reflectors on tire to do alignment, while dealer put reflectors on wheels, the wheels have small holes by lug nuts so i believe this method is more precise.
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Highly rated dealer did the service...been using them for decades. Thanks for that input.
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Highly rated dealer did the service...been using them for decades. Thanks for that input.
Pretty simple. If you had the dealer do the alignment...bring it back and show them how the steering wheel is off centered. Hard to argue with that
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Anyone have an issue getting their steering wheel on center after a front end alignment? Had my fronts replaced at 22,000 miles ( standard good year all season ) which then required a software update on the steering because I wasn't happy with the centering of the wheel. it's still not like it was and I'M HOME, the software update merely masks the issue by making the steering dynamics less precise.
Sorry for the questions but something is not making sense to me.

Why did changing to new tires require a software update? Was this after an alignment with the old tires? Showing some issue outside the scope of an alignment?

Was the software simply to the latest version, or more specific, to try and sort a problem?
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Anyone have an issue getting their steering wheel on center after a front end alignment? Had my fronts replaced at 22,000 miles ( standard good year all season ) which then required a software update on the steering because I wasn't happy with the centering of the wheel. it's still not like it was and I'M HOME, the software update merely masks the issue by making the steering dynamics less precise.
Sorry for the questions but something is not making sense to me.

Why did changing to new tires require a software update? Was this after an alignment with the old tires? Showing some issue outside the scope of an alignment?

Was the software simply to the latest version, or more specific, to try and sort a problem?
Good question. Tires replaced and an alignment was done. Picked up car and promptly returned because the centering and pull to the left. Was told alignment at the edge and there is a software update to fix complaints about wheel centering.

Forward a few months now and I still don't like the way it feels.

Isn't reading like any other F10 owners have run into this "software" update.
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Good question. Tires replaced and an alignment was done. Picked up car and promptly returned because the centering and pull to the left. Was told alignment at the edge and there is a software update to fix complaints about wheel centering.

Forward a few months now and I still don't like the way it feels.

Isn't reading like any other F10 owners have run into this "software" update.
Was the car tracking straight with steering wheel 'on-center' before the alignment?

I recall there were some users who had the pull issue on early models, all sorts of fixes were tried to cure the problem. Included re-positioning of suspension parts and I'm sure there were software updates.

From my experience, these cars can be very steering sensitive, depend on the correct SAS (Steering Angle Sensor) calibration/steering wheel position. As the sensing is via the rack, it is important that the steering wheel is on-center after the alignment, or the rack is not at absolute zero when driving straight ahead. A 'zero' mid position determines steering precision.
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Good question. Tires replaced and an alignment was done. Picked up car and promptly returned because the centering and pull to the left. Was told alignment at the edge and there is a software update to fix complaints about wheel centering.

Forward a few months now and I still don't like the way it feels.

Isn't reading like any other F10 owners have run into this "software" update.
Was the car tracking straight with steering wheel 'on-center' before the alignment?

I recall there were some users who had the pull issue on early models, all sorts of fixes were tried to cure the problem. Included re-positioning of suspension parts and I'm sure there were software updates.

From my experience, these cars can be very steering sensitive, depend on the correct SAS (Steering Angle Sensor) calibration/steering wheel position. As the sensing is via the rack, it is important that the steering wheel is on-center after the alignment, or the rack is not at absolute zero when driving straight ahead. A 'zero' mid position determines steering precision.
Great info sir..many thanks.
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