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      09-09-2021, 02:19 PM   #23
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Another broadside at Merc as Binotto sees 'double standards' from Fia as to how Ferrari were hounded by them in '19 and presently the apparent lax examination of the W12 and dragging feet of gov body concerning the bendy front wing and increased power plenum chamber hidden cooling sensors.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f...-saga/6662986/
Yeah my friend . Earlier this evening I was reading the article in Dutch .

Usually Binotto is just an Italian clown . But this time I agree completely with his statement .

Very likely HAM's Mercedes will win at Monza , by the higher topspeed on the 1,100 metres long straight .
But I'm curious to see if the FIA will take his Mercedes apart as a random check .
Just like they did at Zandvoort with MAX's car .

Honestly I'm pretty sure , we wont see the FIA arround HAM's car to check the cheating air cooling system and the misleading sensors !
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Yeah my friend . Earlier this evening I was reading the article in Dutch .

Usually Binotto is just an Italian clown . But this time I agree completely with his statement .

Very likely HAM's Mercedes will win at Monza , by the higher topspeed on the 1,100 metres long straight .
But I'm curious to see if the FIA will take his Mercedes apart as a random check .
Just like they did at Zandvoort with MAX's car .

Honestly I'm pretty sure , we wont see the FIA arround HAM's car to check the cheating air cooling system and the misleading sensors !
As long as tody is there and brown envo's coming a plenty then how long can it go on for. The teams that are being supplied with merc pu's will keep the mouths shut out of fear.
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There's nothing about that on the gp.today uk version looking through it and it's not the first time the English versions of these sites have ignored these important news bulletins,I ask myself is it because of Merc and Ham influence.
Use chrome and auto translate,
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which enables the W12 to pass FIA temperature tests !!!
This Isn't according the FIA regulations !
The cheating generates extra horsepower from their PU by managing to significantly cool the air coming out of the car during acceleration.
If it isn't explicitly banned in the regulations, then it isn't cheating. Every team on the grid is doing this sort of thing as I type this, we just don't hear about it. It's textbook F1 engineering 101.

If they pass the FIA temperature tests, then they are compliant. It's the same as RedBull's 'bendy wings'.
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"Essentially, a car number is selected out of a hat. That car will undergo the usual scrutineering bay checks, and then be taken back to its garage. The actual job of taking the car to pieces will be done by the team's own mechanics."
From Nicholas Tombazis on the process:
"We will be doing this every race. Occasionally we may choose two cars if necessary. Or if through the random process we've had a car that hasn't been selected for 15 races or something, we may decide to add it and do some extra checks, potentially. Or if we have suspicions, we may still decide to do it. But we want to have this random aspect so that any car can be checked at any time. So theoretically, the same car could happen five times."
Amusing that the previous time it was Max's car chosen for deep inspection (Monaco), there were no conspiracy comments.
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Who is this guy & track map

Looks like Hammy’s brother must remain 60 paces behind Hammy whilst fashion shoot is in session.
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Yeah my friend . Earlier this evening I was reading the article in Dutch .

Usually Binotto is just an Italian clown . But this time I agree completely with his statement .

Very likely HAM's Mercedes will win at Monza , by the higher topspeed on the 1,100 metres long straight .
But I'm curious to see if the FIA will take his Mercedes apart as a random check .
Just like they did at Zandvoort with MAX's car .

Honestly I'm pretty sure , we wont see the FIA arround HAM's car to check the cheating air cooling system and the misleading sensors !
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Interesting now to see the helmetcam with George Russell

Little bit too low though.
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Looking more like Ham will have a grid penalty, have to start at the back with new PU.
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/93652...nevitable.html
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Looking more like Ham will have a grid penalty, have to start at the back with new PU.
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/93652...nevitable.html
Well now, the game of speculations can begin !
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Well now, the game of speculations can begin !
RB and Merc will now be playing a game of 'cat and mouse' watching each other what is likely possible, we've all seen the Merc spies with their telephoto lens cameras aimed at RB garage.
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RB and Merc will now be playing a game of 'cat and mouse' watching each other what is likely possible, we've all seen the Merc spies with their telephoto lens cameras aimed at RB garage.
Binotto has spoken again ! => https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f...662986/?nrt=54
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Ferrari was always seen as the rogue and outsider based in mysterious Italy for decades and now with Merc under suspicion but covering up under the guise of ''we race as one'' and blm has somehow let the gov body take not such an interest because of political impact brought on by Ham.
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Ferrari was always seen as the rogue and outsider based in mysterious Italy for decades and now with Merc under suspicion but covering up under the guise of ''we race as one'' and blm has somehow let the gov body take not such an interest because of political impact brought on by Ham.
Indeed my friend .

I just heard , HAM's broken engine got too much cold air ...
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The Merc's won't need a tow .... More 'cold air is the key !
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C'mon Checo ! It's time to show your b@lls !

But my words are useless ...
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Not really surprising that the Merc's are the fastest on a track with virtually no corners.
But BOT on Q1 for the sprint race is going to be interesting.
I wonder if he still accepts team orders like the good boy he always is
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C'mon Checo ! It's time to show your b@lls !

But my words are useless ...
They've been taken away so Maxi can get a tow every time.

edit: Karen confirmed it, Checo sacrificed .5s to give Maxi a tow.

But Maxipads don't see it and just blame Checo.

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They've been taken away so Maxi can get a tow every time.

edit: Karen confirmed it, Checo sacrificed .5s to give Maxi a tow.

But Maxipads don't see it and just blame Checo.
Looks like HAM lost it from his lapdog .

On the long Monza straights . It will be very hard to beat the "Cheating Cold Air Machines" in warp-speed !
Mercedes can pull an outstanding race strategy..
But MAX can start tomorrow on the clean side of the track.
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