[$howtime456]

Originally Posted by ziekxq

Yeah.. If I ever go meth route I would just use it for controlling IATs... probably put windshield washer in the tank and let it cool the IATs lol but not for fueling.

totally agree. IATS only.

[BimmerHausPerformance]

Originally Posted by $howtime456

I had a torqbyte-cm5 initially. Very complex setup but the best out of everything. Monitors and shuts down everything while putting the system into safe mode. I sold it, got rid of meth entirely. Revisited the meth system due to hot temps up here in NY and needed cooling. Went and got the VC2 by Snow Performance. Started playing around with M1 for fuel additive. Went on the dyno and me and David couldnt even tune right since needing more fuel. Stuck at 20psi. This is with FX-180, -10an fuel lines, hellcat LPFP. Wasted 3hrs on the dyno. After going home went over my fuel system and found out my Pro-Meth Nozzle was gunked with rust from the M1 sitting. Went and bought me a Devils Own Nozzle and been good so far. No guage can monitor if there is a clog in the line except for torque byte. For the leaks, if you buy a check valve over a solenoid you cant monitor the cracking pressure. Devils own is the only valve on the market with a 10psi crack pressure i believe. The rest open up at around 20psi. You can always opt for a solenoid and hook it up to your guage but those are 100% more liable to stay stuck open and leak when the car is off overtime.

Did you ever spray anything other than boost juice? I can't imagine using anything other than what would be recommended!!! Look at this!

[ziekxq]

Well I might just do regular water with ice in the meth box lol.

[BimmerHausPerformance]

Well, getting my first flash from DS today, and the meth kit is on it's way... lol - I really appreciate what you guys say but I also can't ignore what DS is telling me. PLUS, IF it doesn't work out, I too also want this mod to lower the IAT's, cleaning, etc. There are a lot of benefits. Snow 2.5 with the safeties, warnings, gauge etc was only 360 SHIPPED. Pretty inexpensive if you ask me!

[$howtime456]

Originally Posted by BrowBMW

Well, getting my first flash from DS today, and the meth kit is on it's way... lol - I really appreciate what you guys say but I also can't ignore what DS is telling me. PLUS, IF it doesn't work out, I too also want this mod to lower the IAT's, cleaning, etc. There are a lot of benefits. Snow 2.5 with the safeties, warnings, gauge etc was only 360 SHIPPED. Pretty inexpensive if you ask me!

Nice cant wait for you to turn it up.

[$howtime456]

Originally Posted by BrowBMW

Did you ever spray anything other than boost juice? I can't imagine using anything other than what would be recommended!!! Look at this!

I have used boost juice. I used Heet and Water then Wanted to test out the M1 so i disconnected my port for fueling and opted for meth and was a huge mistake + $. Everything David is telling you is true. You will make power using meth for fuel. But as i stated b4 it has its major downfalls and there are more safer routes to not risk blowing the motor. All it takes is 1 leak, have your car sit overnight with that check valve or solenoid open and motor is done upon start up. You will wash away all the oil on whichever cylinder, bearing goes bye bye and new motor time. Be careful, i dont want to see this route.

[$howtime456]

so here is the results of my M1 getting clogged inside the nozzle. After this ordeal went back to just cooling. That m1 is very corrosive.

[BimmerHausPerformance]

Wow… that can't be just from methanal. An alcohol won't turn into that on it's own unless it reacted with something!!! That is nasty.

[BimmerHausPerformance]

How often did you check your lines? I am reading it is a regular maintenance item… like monthly.

[BimmerHausPerformance]

I picked up 5 gallons of meth the other day and asked the guys about this at the track and they call this 'white death' - it comes from leaving 100% meth sitting too long in the system and the alcohol starts to evaporate away leaving this residue behind. I am reading that I'll need to check my filters/sprayer etc frequently until I see what the regular service interval is. It's crazy how much information is NOT out there on this topic. I'm going to be reviewing quite often until I can establish safe inspection intervals. Some guys are only doing it once every 6 months - but the guys at the track said if you car sits for a long time and there is no movement in the fluid then that's an issue... maybe that's why there is a purge function cause if you can't purge when you fire your car up, and you get a warning of a clogged line... then you know something is up. Bottom line is that it's a risk like anything else, but if you are on top of things and watching what's going on I don't think there will be an issue.

[BimmerHausPerformance]

Oh, and I got my base map from DS for 93 - I have to drive conservatively until he reviews the logs but already HUGE difference. I'm building up to and holding 22 lbs of boost from 3500-4500... can't wait to see how this plays out.

[ziekxq]

Originally Posted by BrowBMW

Oh, and I got my base map from DS for 93 - I have to drive conservatively until he reviews the logs but already HUGE difference. I'm building up to and holding 22 lbs of boost from 3500-4500... can't wait to see how this plays out.

That's how it starts then it gets lower lol 😆... that is how it happen to me then it went down and I was like aww man.

[BimmerHausPerformance]

Originally Posted by ziekxq

That's how it starts then it gets lower lol 😆... that is how it happen to me then it went down and I was like aww man.

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[$howtime456]

Originally Posted by BrowBMW

Wow… that can't be just from methanal. An alcohol won't turn into that on it's own unless it reacted with something!!! That is nasty.

Thats M1. Pure Methanol no water. highly corrosive.

[$howtime456]

Originally Posted by BrowBMW

How often did you check your lines? I am reading it is a regular maintenance item… like monthly.

i check them every two weeks. Purge the system and all. Could be that i barely drive the car and the meth just sat

[$howtime456]

Originally Posted by ziekxq

That's how it starts then it gets lower lol 😆... that is how it happen to me then it went down and I was like aww man.

yea DS will turn it up to the max... lower it down to be in safe zone then when its dyno time to finish up the tune... aww man!! to the moon

[BimmerHausPerformance]

To continue sharing my journey and learning here:

So I got some clarification from DS on HOW he's going to use the Methanol. For a 93 map he's going to use it in limited capacity only to increase rail pressure of the straight 93 octane gas and while that will increase octane a bit, he is not going to increase timing and create a situation where if there is a failure it'd do any damage. He always falls back on the fact that I might end up only pushing 93 through there... so that's good to know.

Now, when I get an e50 mix (need the MHD flex fuel module to work on our platform) along with the methanol that is a completely different story because if there is a methanol failure, the octane of what's left over and the drop in fuel rail pressure will not put the engine in jeopardy. There are other management safeguards that will come into play when fuel rail pressure drops if there is a meth failure and so he WILL then be able to turn up timing and really push the car.

He felt like overall the extra fueling is safe and I shouldn't see any problems with the safeguards built into the 2.5 kit and as long as I'm on top of maintenance.

[BimmerHausPerformance]

Alrighty boyz... If you didn't know MHD had a release and guess what? This is now supported per BimECU and David Shoup:
https://www.bimecu.com/mhd-can-flexf...ickinstall-kit

We now have a more economical way to run flex fuel.

Other updates:
I asked DS what he thought the n55 could handle and he said 600-650 WTQ and 650 WHP. That would just about tap out the PS2 on an aggressive tune. These are my goals... e50, 100% meth, nostrom injectors that are good for 700-750 hp and then let's rock and roll. May or may not need LPFP with the 100% meth supporting rail pressure but I might upgrade any way.

Need to move meth tank to trunk :-(

[$howtime456]

Originally Posted by BrowBMW

Alrighty boyz... If you didn't know MHD had a release and guess what? This is now supported per BimECU and David Shoup:
https://www.bimecu.com/mhd-can-flexf...ickinstall-kit

We now have a more economical way to run flex fuel.

Other updates:
I asked DS what he thought the n55 could handle and he said 600-650 WTQ and 650 WHP. That would just about tap out the PS2 on an aggressive tune. These are my goals... e50, 100% meth, nostrom injectors that are good for 700-750 hp and then let's rock and roll. May or may not need LPFP with the 100% meth supporting rail pressure but I might upgrade any way.

Need to move meth tank to trunk :-(

600hp on a PS2 is highly unlikely. WGDC will max out around 580. If only big boost or a nice turbo company made a direct fit for our cars where the engine mount bracket isnt hitting the bottom mount turbo.

[$howtime456]

Originally Posted by BrowBMW

Alrighty boyz... If you didn't know MHD had a release and guess what? This is now supported per BimECU and David Shoup:
https://www.bimecu.com/mhd-can-flexf...ickinstall-kit

We now have a more economical way to run flex fuel.

Other updates:
I asked DS what he thought the n55 could handle and he said 600-650 WTQ and 650 WHP. That would just about tap out the PS2 on an aggressive tune. These are my goals... e50, 100% meth, nostrom injectors that are good for 700-750 hp and then let's rock and roll. May or may not need LPFP with the 100% meth supporting rail pressure but I might upgrade any way.

Need to move meth tank to trunk :-(

the e50 would be your fuel supplement so you wouldnt need the meth unless for cooling. Unless you use the 100% meth as fuel supplement then you wont need the e50. Either way you use it the car should boogie

[BimmerHausPerformance]

Originally Posted by $howtime456

the e50 would be your fuel supplement so you wouldnt need the meth unless for cooling. Unless you use the 100% meth as fuel supplement then you wont need the e50. Either way you use it the car should boogie

The meth isn't as a fuel supplement but it raises fuel rail pressure. A 50/50 mix won't do that. If course it raises octane and provides some cooling, but we are using it specifically to raise fuel pressure.

[$howtime456]

Originally Posted by BrowBMW

The meth isn't as a fuel supplement but it raises fuel rail pressure. A 50/50 mix won't do that. If course it raises octane and provides some cooling, but we are using it specifically to raise fuel pressure.

yes you can use it for both but i assume your using M1 and then mixing it with E50. Cant you just raise the fuel pressure within the tune?