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      01-23-2022, 10:41 PM   #45
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I do VP meth but haven't tuned for it yet… coming very soon!
Im very curios to see a data log by you, i want to see those iat numbers!
I will shares those once I get meth going, but I also have a behind the grill air intake so I get fresh ram air.
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im runing a 375ml nozzle... do you guys think its too small?
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What do you think the limitations are of your stock internals and drivetrain? I was told about 700hp.

I think 100% meth and e85 could get you there. Then you don't have to worry about PI. This is the route I am going.

700 ???? whoooohooooo !!!! I thought it was more into the low 600's on cast internals.., but I would like to be proven wrong
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      01-28-2022, 01:45 PM   #48
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well it turns out my meth check valve was gummed up iat looking better! considering a bigger nozzle for meth/boost juice, currently at 375ml/min (let me know what you guys run/suggest running) my nozzle is no longer available but its the same at the N0600 from snowperformance
25lbs 5th gear, now i need to do a draggy run but im scared about spinning with all the salt on the road!
multiple gear data logs coming when roads get better
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      01-28-2022, 02:11 PM   #49
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well it turns out my meth check valve was gummed up iat looking better! considering a bigger nozzle for meth/boost juice, currently at 375ml/min (let me know what you guys run/suggest running) my nozzle is no longer available but its the same at the N0600 from snowperformance
25lbs 5th gear, now i need to do a draggy run but im scared about spinning with all the salt on the road!
multiple gear data logs coming when roads get better
You were hitting 27 lbs in the charge pipe but at the manifold you were only showing 22lbs. You have no throttle plate closure, so I wonder why? Question for your tuner. Maybe you need a 3bar sensor on the manifold too?

Some timing correction on cyl 1 but not bad, your rail pressure was dropping so that means you probably can't turn it up more. Can you run more meth to support rail pressure? You are running 100% correct?

Have you looked into the flex fuel module to run an e mix? Or is this e50 per your tune's name?

For an Xdrive, your Estimated WHP on this pull was 633hp, probably would have been higher if you took it to redline.

Good data there!!!
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      01-28-2022, 03:14 PM   #50
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You were hitting 27 lbs in the charge pipe but at the manifold you were only showing 22lbs. You have no throttle plate closure, so I wonder why? Question for your tuner. Maybe you need a 3bar sensor on the manifold too?

Some timing correction on cyl 1 but not bad, your rail pressure was dropping so that means you probably can't turn it up more. Can you run more meth to support rail pressure? You are running 100% correct?

Have you looked into the flex fuel module to run an e mix? Or is this e50 per your tune's name?

For an Xdrive, your Estimated WHP on this pull was 633hp, probably would have been higher if you took it to redline.

Good data there!!!
Right now im on boost juice, this is the 30 percent e85 tune or my 2nd map, how are you looking at charpipe vs manifold pressure?
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You were hitting 27 lbs in the charge pipe but at the manifold you were only showing 22lbs. You have no throttle plate closure, so I wonder why? Question for your tuner. Maybe you need a 3bar sensor on the manifold too?

Some timing correction on cyl 1 but not bad, your rail pressure was dropping so that means you probably can't turn it up more. Can you run more meth to support rail pressure? You are running 100% correct?

Have you looked into the flex fuel module to run an e mix? Or is this e50 per your tune's name?

For an Xdrive, your Estimated WHP on this pull was 633hp, probably would have been higher if you took it to redline.

Good data there!!!
also how are you estimating power?
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Right now im on boost juice, this is the 30 percent e85 tune or my 2nd map, how are you looking at charpipe vs manifold pressure?
on your log, see parameters

BOOST PSI = TMAP, the pressure at the charge pipe in front of the TB
BOOST MANY PSI= MAP, the pressure in the intake manifold (so obviously after the TB)
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on your log, see parameters

BOOST PSI = TMAP, the pressure at the charge pipe in front of the TB
BOOST MANY PSI= MAP, the pressure in the intake manifold (so obviously after the TB)
ohhhh thank you, i only upgraded the chargepipe sensor and 22.7psi was about the max on that one.
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also how are you estimating power?
G/sec on the MAF

For AWD take that # times 1.3
For RWD take that # times 1.25 (less drive train loss)

This is a general estimate but good for comparison sake.
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G/sec on the MAF

For AWD take that # times 1.3
For RWD take that # times 1.25 (less drive train loss)

This is a general estimate but good for comparison sake.
thank you!
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Love everything about this Thread! Very interested to see how far you go and how the car holds up.
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I got a log in 4th-5th gear hitting 26psi reving to redline
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I got a log in 4th-5th gear hitting 26psi reving to redline
Your Throttle plate is only letting in 23lbs of boost, but even so your estimated HP is 665!!!!

0 timing corrections!

Your fuel is limiting you, I think that's why your tuner hasn't lit it up... YOU NEED METH!!!! That will help increase fuel rail pressure then your tuner should be able to crank it. Snow meth kit stage 2.5 with stainless steel so you can run full 100% meth.
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Your Throttle plate is only letting in 23lbs of boost, but even so your estimated HP is 665!!!!

0 timing corrections!

Your fuel is limiting you, I think that's why your tuner hasn't lit it up... YOU NEED METH!!!! That will help increase fuel rail pressure then your tuner should be able to crank it. Snow meth kit stage 2.5 with stainless steel so you can run full 100% meth.
only 23 lbs past the throttle plate? how are you seeing that? I see throttle closure is at 6633rpm at 26psi so after that understand the manifold pressure drop. I don't usually rev this high.
I need to run through the gears in sport auto to see what the car likes to shift at, also going through all the gears will give us some better data.

i have the 2.5 kit with stainless steel lines im fine with running boost juice for now, im still on the same tune revision i was on months ago when I was bottom mount turbo. so i might go full meth in the future... but for now she is making plenty on jam for my taste
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You can see it in 2 places, Manifold pressure (which is after the throttle plate) and throttle position.

Where do you have your meth tank located?
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You can see it in 2 places, Manifold pressure (which is after the throttle plate) and throttle position.

Where do you have your meth tank located?
I'm pretty sure that just what the stock sensor can read. are you talking about high in the rpm range? I believe its a 2.5 bar just like the stock chargpipe so it only reads around 22psi after atmosphere pressure.
I have the tank bolted in the trunk to the driver side kinda on the taillight so I can easily poor fluid into it. I was going to mount to back of seat but there is not a good way to get fluid into it. I will get a picture when I clear all the snow off of it.
if you are thinking about good mounting points i wish i would have made something to go in-between the battery and the bumper... im using the tank that it comes with and its too tall to fit and have the trunk liner flap close
do you already have yours installed?
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I have not! I got a 7.5 gallon tank and the stainless steel lines... I need to install it for sure.
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I'm pretty sure that just what the stock sensor can read. are you talking about high in the rpm range? I believe its a 2.5 bar just like the stock chargpipe so it only reads around 22psi after atmosphere pressure.
I have the tank bolted in the trunk to the driver side kinda on the taillight so I can easily poor fluid into it. I was going to mount to back of seat but there is not a good way to get fluid into it. I will get a picture when I clear all the snow off of it.
if you are thinking about good mounting points i wish i would have made something to go in-between the battery and the bumper... im using the tank that it comes with and its too tall to fit and have the trunk liner flap close
do you already have yours installed?
best bet is to get a pro-meth tank. I had mines in the trunk and could pour a whole gallon of meth in with no problem. SS lines all the way to the charge pipe. Feeding my 6266.
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Any F10 N55 pwg big turbo recommendations to get to 700 hp?
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Any F10 N55 pwg big turbo recommendations to get to 700 hp?
You could do a bottom mount with a high flow manifold with the "traditional" set up (wastegate, coolant/oil lines etc) vs. going big frame. I can help you out with either. I'm about to get a car in to fab up a top mount for him. At 700 HP you should be thinking about transmission mods and internals if you want it to last. Let me know if you need any assistance.
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