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      10-09-2022, 03:09 AM   #133
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Whoa, does Charlie have to give up that position to Checo for track limits?
Charlie ran off track to hold position ..It Isn't looking good for him .

He can get a time penalty ...
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Easy win for Max. Another great drive

Lets see what the marshalls decide about LEC leaving the track.
Will Checo get P2?
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Easy win for Max.

Lets see what the marshalls decide about LEC leaving the track.
Will Checo get P2?
I think so!
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MAX!!!!!!! Amazing!!!
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Charlie got a 5 sec penalty !!!
This means Checo is P2 !

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MAX IS THE 2022 WORLD CHAMPION !!!

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Anticli MAXX!

mmm well anyway

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IMO Ocon Driver of the Day. Where was the GOAT?

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Pretty amazing for Max to clinch world championship in Japan.
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Pretty amazing for Max to clinch world championship in Japan.
This is only the beginning ...
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Pretty amazing for Max to clinch world championship in Japan.
This is only the beginning ...
Considering he is not even close to hitting his peak yet, you're 10000% correct
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congrats to Red Bull and Max for their 2nd tittle in history.. and actually the first clean title.. last years tittle one was a gifted one to break Lewis' tittles.. we all know this.. i hope we wont ever see such things like that ever again in this sport..

F1 community was complaining about Merc's dominance.. 12 race wins out of 17 for Red Bull.. probably few more on the way.. very good job to create another actually a greater dominance thats all..

if we want to see races that at least 2-3 different teams win.. this way is the wrong way.. high-rake concept advantage is too big after new rules..

i hope Merc' already gave up in this season 3-5 races before put more bias to next years car.. probably less grippy and more slippery.. we all seen many times this year that if you cant even keep alongside a car ahead.. all that grip doesnt make sense at all.. to avoid tire destroying nature of it probably higher rake is a must for Merc's..

throughout Merc's dominance we seen much more fun races.. this year was/is so boring thanks to Ferrari also with their actions.. Red Bulls can overtake other teams like they re playing on easy mode in games.. other than that we just see nice overtakes back in the field to squeeze some fun out of the races..

anyway.. Red Bull and Max really deserved this tittle with these rules.. thats clear.. well done..
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Considering he is not even close to hitting his peak yet, you're 10000% correct
The 2013 European Kart Championship in Belgium (Genk) !
Charlie was P3 ..

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Max well done, WDC 2022!

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last years tittle one was a gifted one to break Lewis' tittles.. we all know this..
I have a very different opinion on this.
You can't speak for me, you can only speak for yourself.
when you start saying "we all know this", that is called a fallacy.
And you only use a fallacy if you have a weak argument.

The "gifted" situation was imho that Max came in for fresh tyres and Lewis didnt. Coming in for fresh tyres ended up to be the right choice. Both drivers had that choice.
And this year in Zandvoort a similar situation came up. Again Max came in for fresh tyres, giving away his lead. Still it prooved to be the right choice.
So maybe Lewis and Merc is too much focussed on driving in front. I think Max and RB is focussed on driving the fastest in these situations.

I also don't think this years' RB dominance can be compared to MERC's dominance of past years. A big portion of RB's victories come from Ferrari making stupid mistakes.
There are a lot of tracks on the calender where Ferrari is arguably the better car. (LEC's amount of pole positions are a sign of that, together with SAI they had 11 out of 18 poles, RB only had 6)
Most of RB's lead in WDC and WCC is a result of their superior strategy and team performance in the pits (and of course very good driving).
On average I think the RB is the better car on the faster tracks and the Ferrari is the better car on the slower tracks. So RB probably has better aerodynamic grip and Ferrari probably has better mechanical grip.
Overall I think the RB is still the better car, but it's not miles ahead like the MERCS were in pretty much every aspect. Of course RB had porpoising sorted out from the beginning, so they could focus most of their updates on improving the car in terms of adding speed (mostly optimising parts by removing dead weight), but certainly in the first half of the year, the ferrari was better on a lot of tracks.
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Pretty amazing for Max to clinch world championship in Japan.
he needed Sergio again
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he needed Sergio again
That's really funny .The gap behind MAX was 27 + sec. !
And in the 5 last laps MAX lifted it complelety ..

Charlie wasn't fast enough , that's why Checo closed the gap .
Checo put Charlie under pressure , and that's why Charlie made that stupid mistake .
Charlie's mistake was expensive by losing P2 with a 5 sec. time penalty .

MAX was actually already the '2022 World Champion at 'SPA !
Without Checo's help..
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I wonder if RB has problems with the traction control software (especially in Max' car).
This race Max didn't have a great start; LEC was way faster to 100kph but their reaction time was almost the same, and also in Singapore Max had quite a poor start in the rain.
I think in Singapore you could hear in the onboard footage that the engine was struggeling with traction control.

this is onboard in suzuka. It also looks like the traction control software can't find that optimal point. Acceleration at very low speeds doesn't look that fast:
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