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      12-04-2018, 12:19 PM   #1
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HELP! 535 N55 keeps shutting off!!

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My sisters 2012 535i i think its the n55 engine, out of no where started shutting off everytime you turn it on. Some times it keeps cranking for about 3 second before starting with low rpm and struggling to stay on before shutting off again. I tried starting it and giving it some gas few times up on starting it, after few tries it turned on perfictly fine with no issues at all accept a check engine light. After starting it, it worked fine but when she leaves it off for 8 hours or so the issue seems to come back.*not sure if warming it up is fixing the issue as we can drive it with no issues and shutting it off and back on is no issue.

Last night i tried turning it on after being off for 2 weeks it had the same issue but managed to turn it on after few tries. Alot of white smoke came out of mufflers for less than 2 seconds and it was fine, i think it was steam maybe as it was 54 degree.

Some notes

It has gasket leak and the sparkplugs area has some oil but dont think its enough to start issues

The check engin code is under DTC saying 101F01 Throttle valve opening angle - intake intake pipe absolute pressure, comparison pressure too high.*

Battery is good and 3 months old from dealer
Tried doing the hitting gas pedal 10 times while engine off woth no luck

Im planing on diy ing the issue if it doesnt requires any heavy parts to be pulled out.*

Any help would be highly appreciated as we are both students and getting a bimmer was the worst idea so far!

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Hi. Checked battery it was good. Its only 3 months old from dealer
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      12-05-2018, 09:19 AM   #4
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sounds like it could be a MAP sensor or valvetronic stuck
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      12-16-2018, 04:32 PM   #5
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Hello. I was able to start it today on the first try. It turned on fine but after one minute the rpm started dropping and the car kept pushing it up to keep the engine running. The weather was little warm I think that's a factor of it starting on the first try. I noticed pressure while the car is on and removing the oil cap. I recorded 2 videos of the issue on YouTube. Links below

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      12-16-2018, 05:51 PM   #6
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Hello. I was able to start it today on the first try. It turned on fine but after one minute the rpm started dropping and the car kept pushing it up to keep the engine running. The weather was little warm I think that's a factor of it starting on the first try. I noticed pressure while the car is on and removing the oil cap. I recorded 2 videos of the issue on YouTube. Links below

Video 1


Video 2
From reading your issues sounds like the crank case vent is possibly bad, clogged ccv hose also. If valve cover ccv is bad you need a whole new valve cover plus gaskets, also replace the ccv hose. Not getting that fixed can also make main seals go out and cause suction between trans and engine. Do you notice any oil leaking from that area? Mine has similar pressure hasn't turned off though, but leaking rear main seal. Nothing extreme but it will need replaced on mine. I also plan on doing my valve cover and gaskets too.
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      12-16-2018, 06:14 PM   #7
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Hello. I was able to start it today on the first try. It turned on fine but after one minute the rpm started dropping and the car kept pushing it up to keep the engine running. The weather was little warm I think that's a factor of it starting on the first try. I noticed pressure while the car is on and removing the oil cap. I recorded 2 videos of the issue on YouTube. Links below

Video 1


Video 2
From reading your issues sounds like the crank case vent is possibly bad, clogged ccv hose also. If valve cover ccv is bad you need a whole new valve cover plus gaskets, also replace the ccv hose. Not getting that fixed can also make main seals go out and cause suction between trans and engine. Do you notice any oil leaking from that area? Mine has similar pressure hasn't turned off though, but leaking rear main seal. Nothing extreme but it will need replaced on mine. I also plan on doing my valve cover and gaskets too.
I've been having the same issue ever since I replaced my chargepipe, turns off and puts its self into neutral and I feel hesitation and throttle lag
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I've been having the same issue ever since I replaced my chargepipe, turns off and puts its self into neutral and I feel hesitation and throttle lag
You have induced this into your car based on the faults you presented... so not really the same thing...
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Hi. Checked battery it was good. Its only 3 months old from dealer
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sounds like it could be a MAP sensor or valvetronic stuck
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You have induced this into your car based on the faults you presented... so not really the same thing...

hey sorry for the late reply, I bought the carly app and the adapter to get the scans a lot of fox recommended and was wondering if you recommend anything else. I turned it on today for about half an hour to charge the battery a bit, it turned on fine with no issues and stayed on with no issues, the rpm dropped a bit few times at start but nothing too low. the car is good to drive and everything but chick engine is still on with the following faults. the air bags disregard the airbags faults as I'm working on replacing them in the near feature. oil level is at half between min-max and i get my oil from fcp Europe and use the recommended oil by them and the car manual.

Fault Report - Carly for BMW
FV
Base: F10
Build-Year: 2012
Faults: 137
ECUs: 28
Filter: just found
Model: 5 (F10, F11, F18) Automatic engine recognition (MotorID=994, Parameter=159)
Battery: 14.5V
ADDITIONAL OBD: OFFNormal communication
Normal connection
normal
B 2
Date: 2018-12-23 15:22:43
Carly Adapter
Motor Control:
Engine / Motor


Radiator shutter, top: upper stop detected early
Code: 138701
Throttle angle - intake manifold absolute pressure, Comparative pressure too low
Code: 101F01
Mixture Control: mixture too lean
Code: 118001
Tank ventilation system shut-off valve, control: Line break
Code: 191B04
Tank vent valve control: Line break
Code: 191004
Tank vent valve control: Short circuit to earth
Code: 191002
Start voltage transformer / starter generator, control: Short circuit to earth
Code: 218402
DMTL solenoid valve control: Line break
Code: 190004
DMTL leak diagnosis pump control: Line break
Code: 190704
DMTL solenoid valve control: Short circuit to earth
Code: 190002
DMTL, Heating, control: Short circuit to earth
Code: 190502
DMTL leak diagnosis pump control: Short circuit to earth
Code: 190702
Mixture Control: mixture too lean, large deviation
Code: 118401
Power Management: Consumer reduction active
Code: 213901
Air mass plausibility: air mass to low
Code: 102002
Motor Control:
Central Gateway / zentrales Gateway
Prerequisite reset terminal 30F Alarm Clock
Code: 801C10
Application shutdown Terminal 30F Alarm Clock
Code: 801C11
Faulty asleep 30B
Code: 801C15
Central memory full error
Code: 801C20
ABS / DSC / Brake:
Dynamische Stabilitäts Control / DSC
Severe undervoltage Local Power
Code: 480964
Left Front - Air Gap Too Big wheel speed sensor
Code: 4809A8
Under-voltage power supply Global
Code: 4809AB
Rear left - Failure Mode Since permanent error suspected wheel speed sensor
Code: 4809B1
Back Right - Failure Mode Since permanent error suspected wheel speed sensor
Code: 4809BA
General - Existing few seconds suspected error 2-3 Rdf temporarily incurable error -
. Wheel speed sensor
Code: 4809D3
Error message
Code: D35557
Error message
Code: D3556D
Error message
Code: D35744
Error message
Code: D358E1
Error message
Code: D35B3F
Error message
Code: D35586
Hand brake / Feststellbremse (EMF)
ECU OK, no Fault Code
Airbag:
Crash safety / Airbag
Resistance to large pockets driver Stage 1 - SC1
Code: 930904
Resistance to large bags Driver Stage 2 - ZK2
Code: 93090A
Driver airbag resistance too large valve - ZK3
Code: 930910
Resistance to large pretensioners driver - ZK7
Code: 930928
Resistance to high load limiters Driver - ZK9
Code: 930934
Short circuit to ground head airbags right - ZK24
Code: 93098B
sorry, unknown fault
Code: 930BB9
sorry, unknown fault
Code: C95418
sorry, unknown fault
Code: C95419
sorry, unknown fault
Code: C95432
Transmission Control:
Getriebesteuerung /Transmission
Error message
Code: CF1461
Error message
Code: CF1501
Error message
Code: CF1511
Error message
Code: CF1521
Error message
Code: CF1531
Error message
Code: CF1541
Gear switch / Gangschalter
Error message
Code: E09424
Instrument cluster:
Instrument cluster / Kombiinstrument
After a short Ub Tank Sensor links
Code: E12C01
After a short Ub-tank sensor right
Code: E12C03
Error message
Code: E1145B
Error message
Code: E1145C
Error message
Code: E1145E
Error message
Code: E11474
Error message
Code: E1147A
Error message
Code: E11480
Undervoltage detected
Code: B7F685
System time is set back
Code: B7F668
Error message
Code: E11498
Error message
Code: E12C1C
Redundant data in Cas Filed
Code: B7F665
Error message
Code: E114A6
Error message
Code: E12C21
Errors in gear position, gearshift point indicator-messages-Can (recognized by the
graphics card)
Code: B7F68C
Error message
Code: E12C2B
sorry, unknown fault
Code: E11467
sorry, unknown fault
Code: E12C38
Central info display / Zentrales Display
Undervoltage detected
Code: 800370
Zentrales Info Display hinten rechts
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Head-Up-Display
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Light/Rain Control:
High beam / Fernlicht
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Heating / AC:
Air conditioning / Klimaanlage
Undervoltage detected
Code: 80120D
Error message
Code: E71402
Error message
Code: E71406
Error message
Code: E71413
Error message
Code: E71415
Error message
Code: E71416
Error signal
Code: E71429
Error message
Code: E71448
Air conditioning / Klimaanlage
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Aircon rear /Klima Heck
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Immobilizer System:
CAS
sorry, unknown fault
Code: 930769
sorry, unknown fault
Code: 93076A
sorry, unknown fault
Code: 93076B
sorry, unknown fault
Code: D91410
Park distance control:
Park Distance Control / PDC
Error message
Code: E21407
Cruise Control:
Active cruise control / Aktive Geschwindigkeitsregelung
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Sunroof / Roof:
Roof / Dach Funktionen
Error message
Code: DE9406
Engine is not started by overvoltage / undervoltage (FAH)
Code: 801A38
DWA-mail alert details in the alarm memory
Code: 801A3A
Shd: Invalid property, no normalization presence
Code: 030215
Esh: Invalid property, no normalization presence
Code: 030295
Sine: External power supply
Code: 801A4B
Sine: Inclination Sensor defect
Code: 801A51
Deactivation IRS and inclination sensor by customer function
Code: 801A4A
Audio/Navi/Communication:
Interior camera/Innenkamera
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Top_Rear_Side_View_Kamera
Undervoltage detected
Code: 800B9F
Timeout
Code: CA940A
Rear Entertainment /Entertainment hinten
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Multimedia-Changer / Wechsler
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Telephone
ECU OK, no Fault Code
Digital Satellite-Tuner USA
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Central control rear/ Zentrales Bedienelement hinten
ECU not present/no response from ECU
CD-Changer / Wechsler
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Driver assitant / Fahrerassistent
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Seats:
Driver seat rear /Sitz Fahrer Heck
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Rear seat passenger/ Beifahrer Sitz hinten
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Driver seat /Sitz Fahrer Heck
Undervoltage detected
Code: 8029D4
sorry, unknown fault
Code: 802A1E
Seat passenger/ Beifahrer Sitz
sorry, unknown fault
Code: 802C1E
Systems:
Junction Box
Short circuit to ground or open circuit - battery sensor, WakeUp line (WUP)
Code: 8020DB
30F terminal reset / shutdown
Code: 8020E8
Missing LIN Slave - K-LIN 6 xAUC sensor
Code: C90D74
Fuel pump / Kraftstoffpumpe
ECU OK, no Fault Code
Nightvision
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Central Control / Zentrale Bedieneinheit
Undervoltage detected
Code: 801405
Tire pressure control / Reifendruck
ECU not present/no response from ECU
HDD des CIC
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Anti-theft alarm system:
Video Switch
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Chassis:
Steering switch cluster / Schaltzentrum Lenksäule
ECU OK, no Fault Code
Air suspension / Luftfederung
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Dynamic vertical / vertikale Dynamik
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Body:
Steering / Aktivlenkung
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Trailer / Anhaenger
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Fussraummodul /FRM
Environmental error (Over-/undervoltage overtemperature headlight driver module
(TMS) Links
Code: 800FC5
Environmental error (Over-/undervoltage overtemperature headlight driver module
(TMS) Right
Code: 800FC4
Data error or timeout headlight driver module (TMS) Links
Code: 800FC3
Mirror undervoltage
Code: 800FB9
fog light fault
Code: 800F3A
fog light fault
Code: 800F3B
Has fog output short circuit left
Code: 800F3C
Welcome Light-repeat active
Code: 800F92
Lighting the active-repeat
Code: 800F93
ELSV undervoltage
Code: 800FA8
Error message
Code: E58500
Error message
Code: E58501
Error message
Code: E58503
Error message
Code: E58510
Error message
Code: E58511
Error message
Code: E58507
Lm Lin bus error Tms links
Code: 800FC8
Integrated Chassis Module / Längs+Querdynamik
:Global supply voltage external
Code: 48279B
Error message
Code: D01646
Error message
Code: D01744
:Error message
Code: D02C67
Error message
Code: D018E1
Error message
Code: D02D54
Error message
Code: D01557
Error message
Code: D02D58
Error message
Code: D01558
Error message
Code: D0156D
Error message
Code: D01570
Error message
Code: D01B3F
Error message
Code: D01A08
Axle rear / Hinterachse
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Roller left /Aufroller Links
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Roller right /Aufroller Rechts
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Tailgate / Hecktuer
ECU OK, no Fault Code
Damper front left / Rad vorne links
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Damper front rechts / Rad vorne rechts
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Damper rear left / Rad hinten links
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Damper rear right / Rad hinten rechts
ECU not present/no response from ECU
Other:
Tire pressure control / Reifendruck Kontrolle
ECU OK, no Fault Code
Steering /Lenkung
:Power supply - Local undervoltage reduce steering assistance
Code: 4823FC
sorry, unknown fault
Code: 4823FF
sorry, unknown fault
Code: D518E1
:Error message
Code: D51744
:Error message
Code: D51C1B
:Error message
Code: D51C1F
:Error message
Code: D51414
Flexible Bus-Interface / Schnittstelle
ECU OK, no Fault Code
Car Communication Computer CCC
:All function blocks Registered most nodes
Code: E1C447
:Monitoring circuit reset was triggered
Code: E1C440
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I'm no expert, but to generate that many electronic system faults, three things spring to mind.

1) The ECU is sick, although I see several "ECU OK" messages in your post.

2) There is an important ground connection that has gone bad. Could be motor to chassis, battery to chassis or around the ECU.

3) The three month old battery is a dud.
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First I'd delete all those codes and then see what comes back, got to separate the shit from shynola. Also, your PCV system will throw a lot of different codes when the diaphragm in the valve cover gets perforated. You can test it by hooking a tube to the outlet on the round oil cap looking thing on the valve cover that is not the oil cap and running it into a glass of water. If it bubbles constantly with engine running then replace your valve cover first. Delete/read codes again and see what you get and deal with whatever still comes up.
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