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      02-27-2022, 05:28 PM   #375
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530d 11' front brake upgrade

I have a 530d 2011 eu, vin code C245754

From what I understand I just need the following from an EU 550i:
***Rotors:
L: part n. 34 11 6 785 675 (34116785675)
R: part n. 34 11 6 785 676 (34116785676)
OR
F01 7 Series 760i and Alpina B7
L: part n. 34 11 6 789 543 (34116789543)
R: part n. 34 11 6 789 544 (34116789544)
this to get more pad area since the hat is smaller?

***Caliper carriers
Part n. 34 11 6 786 829 (34116786829)

***Brake pads.
Part n. 34 11 6 851 269 (34116851269)


On RealOem I get both parts, the 348x30 and the 348x36
(For vehicles with High speed brake system S5AEA=Yes)
I'm assuming I have the 348x36 as my pads are not the same as the us 535i (ordered from eBay the US spec f10 brake pads and didn't work)

Maybe someone with this rotos picture could tell if mine's 36 or 30
(Not near the car, if so I guess I could measure the width and figure it out)



Anyone knows about Brakenetic if worth it? price difference is 3x.


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      02-28-2022, 07:42 PM   #376
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AFAIK the F01 760i/L and Alpina B7 both use a bespoke 374x36 caliper and rotor combo. As you mentioned, the pads are wider as is the rotor friction surface to match. Mixing these parts with 750i parts is bound to mess something up, and I don't like the idea of trimming brake pads to fit as it could lead to uneven wear.

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      02-28-2022, 09:01 PM   #377
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Why would I need to trim pads if there's more area for the caliper/pads?
Jus to understand all this

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AFAIK the F01 760i/L and Alpina B7 both use a bespoke 374x36 caliper and rotor combo. As you mentioned, the pads are wider as is the rotor friction surface to match. Mixing these parts with 750i parts is bound to mess something up, and I don't like the idea of trimming brake pads to fit as it could lead to uneven wear.

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      02-28-2022, 10:07 PM   #378
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Why would I need to trim pads if there's more area for the caliper/pads?
Jus to understand all this
I mean if you use a 750 rotor with 760 calipers and pads, the hat on the 750 rotor will hit the pads. This combination requires trimming the pads, and is the same situation when using the G-series 374 calipers and pads (see Grant's video for more info). If Grant had used 760 rotors he would not have needed to trim the pads.

If you use the 760 rotors with the 760 calipers and pads everything will be OK since the 760 rotors have a smaller hat to give proper clearance to the larger 760 pads.

EDIT: I'm not sure I'm understanding your question properly?
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      02-28-2022, 10:47 PM   #379
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I see now.
750i and 760 are different.

I'm planning to use the 760 since the hat is smaller just in case, but I do have the calipers from the 530d, hence just getting the 550i carries which are the same carriers as the 750 carriers..

760 rotors (I could use the 750 but why not get the smaller hat in case?)
760/750/550 caliper carriers (34 11 6 786 829)
and my 530d calipers

My question is if getting all the right parts


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I mean if you use a 750 rotor with 760 calipers and pads, the hat on the 750 rotor will hit the pads. This combination requires trimming the pads, and is the same situation when using the G-series 374 calipers and pads (see Grant's video for more info). If Grant had used 760 rotors he would not have needed to trim the pads.

If you use the 760 rotors with the 760 calipers and pads everything will be OK since the 760 rotors have a smaller hat to give proper clearance to the larger 760 pads.

EDIT: I'm not sure I'm understanding your question properly?
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      03-01-2022, 02:31 AM   #380
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I see now.
750i and 760 are different.

I'm planning to use the 760 since the hat is smaller just in case, but I do have the calipers from the 530d, hence just getting the 550i carries which are the same carriers as the 750 carriers..

760 rotors (I could use the 750 but why not get the smaller hat in case?)
760/750/550 caliper carriers (34 11 6 786 829)
and my 530d calipers

My question is if getting all the right parts
I believe in Europe, the 750i came with 374x36 under the high speed braking system. If you are getting carriers from a 750i, make sure it had that option. Easy way to tell is that the caliper will say 60/36/374. If you find the carriers from calipers that only say 60/34 then thats not the right one.
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…and my 530d calipers
I think the 530d only had 348x30mm thick brake rotors. If that's the case you will need calipers from a 535d/i that fit 36mm rotors.
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      03-01-2022, 07:48 PM   #382
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Where can I get this info? like to know if I'm searching on eBay how to match the numbers on the carrier with the part #

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Easy way to tell is that the caliper will say 60/36/374. If you find the carriers from calipers that only say 60/34 then that's not the right one.

yup, but pretty sure mines are the 817/18 calipers, we'll see in a month, just buying parts for now.
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I think the 530d only had 348x30mm thick brake rotors. If that's the case you will need calipers from a 535d/i that fit 36mm rotors.
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      03-02-2022, 05:16 AM   #383
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Pull a wheel and check. It's a lot of money to spend based on assumptions!
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      03-06-2022, 08:34 PM   #384
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I'm searching by part numbers on eBay , but all calipers say only 60/36
Almost bought a pair of calipers thinking the carriers would work and sell the calipers back without the carriers...
thanks for this info !! addy27

guess I'll just be getting the carriers then.

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I believe in Europe, the 750i came with 374x36 under the high speed braking system. If you are getting carriers from a 750i, make sure it had that option. Easy way to tell is that the caliper will say 60/36/374. If you find the carriers from calipers that only say 60/34 then thats not the right one.
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      03-06-2022, 09:19 PM   #385
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are this eBay sellers wrong with the part no. or is there a way to tell by the picture if its the right carrier. ?

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      03-06-2022, 11:32 PM   #386
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are this eBay sellers wrong with the part no. or is there a way to tell by the picture if its the right carrier. ?

Here, these are the ones you're looking for:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Driver-Left...-127632-2357-0

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Passenger-R...-127632-2357-0
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      03-08-2022, 12:55 PM   #387
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Hi guys,

so, i have read all 18 pages and still a bit confused so let me start :

I have purchased G30 front caliper/spacers/brakes/rotors and is waiting a sunny weather for mounting...

What is bothering me is the rear ones, do i need to purchase M5 bracket and adapters or can i use my old bracket/caliper and adapters (530d) bcs i ordered new rotors 396x24.

Thank you in advance.

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      03-08-2022, 02:12 PM   #388
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I believe you got the wrong rotors. You have to use F01 rear rotors. They are 370x24. Part number is 34216775291

You will need M5/M6 rear caliper and carrier or if you have 550i piston then you just need to get M5 carrier. Piston for them are the same
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      03-08-2022, 03:28 PM   #389
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Oh, wait wait..

Front:
Calipers 374x36 - bought
Rotors 374x36 - bought ( f01)
Adapter for caliper - bought ( epytec), i saw Lots off guys do spacer washers between, here in Germany, is not allowed..

Rear:

I need 550i caliper and m5/6 carrier bracket?

But why 550i caliper, aren't they all interchangeble except m5/6 bracket?

I was purchasing rear Rotors bcs here i was reading ( thing Page 16 or so), if we use M5 bracket and our Standard caliper we could use 370mm rotor, and if we use Adapter ( epytec) + bracket and Standard caliper we could use 396mm rotor.

I think i got it right as i saw pictures too but i like to ask before i do something

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Edit:

I can confirm, realoem say 550i and 530d calipers are the Same thing.. ( rear)

So seems to me only thing left ist carrier bracket from M5 🤷‍♂️

Can you confirm that, or anyone here?

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Edit:

I can confirm, realoem say 550i and 530d calipers are the Same thing.. ( rear)

So seems to me only thing left ist carrier bracket from M5 🤷*♂️

Can you confirm that, or anyone here?

Thank you
That is correct. You will just need M5/M6 bracket and rotors from 760
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      03-08-2022, 06:17 PM   #392
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When you say adapter, you mean the carrier? How much you got the pair for?


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Adapter for caliper - bought ( epytec), i saw Lots off guys do spacer washers between, here in Germany, is not allowed..
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When i say Adapter i mean on two pieces between Hub and caliper carrier. Here is pic from Fronts.

Sorry, don't know how to say it in English

www.epytec.de - you can easy See the Prices, the Fronts are 53€,-

And the rears are 135€,-

So basicly, without M5 rear carrier i can't do *hit on the rear? Oh mann🤦

Thing is, to source used ones is a pain, and the New ones ( carrier only) cost 244€,- x2 🤦

Bigger thing, Rotors are on the way to me today (396x24)...

🤦

Ah, the Price : I'm now between 1300-1400 without rear M5 carriers and Adapters. But roughly i calculate 1600-1800€,-

I do All myself as a mechanic, but it's a pain sometimes 🤦
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Sorry it took so long folks, life got busy and didn't have time to wrench. Rears off a G series are not bolt on, the rear hole is probably 3-4mm offset and doesn't line up/fit without an adapter of sorts. Bolt threaded into the wheel carrier to help illustrate the location of where it needs to get to.
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Sorry it took so long folks, life got busy and didn't have time to wrench. Rears off a G series are not bolt on, the rear hole is probably 3-4mm offset and doesn't line up/fit without an adapter of sorts. Bolt threaded into the wheel carrier to help illustrate the location of where it needs to get to.
Tnx Unspec, i was waiting for this for a while now, good to know.

Another question for you:

Did you use spacers between hub and calipers and how much ( in mm please), my Adapter is aprox 4-5mm thick, just waiting for Rotors so i can try it on...
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Tnx Unspec, i was waiting for this for a while now, good to know.

Another question for you:

Did you use spacers between hub and calipers and how much ( in mm please), my Adapter is aprox 4-5mm thick, just waiting for Rotors so i can try it on...
Approximately 4mm in spacers was required for the front caliper. Without them, the calipers sit too far in the wheel well and aren't centered on the rotor.
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