[WoodButcher1980]

Guys I really appreciate all the input. It's tough to sort through a lot of the minutiae on this website. The only discrepancy on this car is that it's a 2013, that's it honestly. It has every feature and then some it seems. I'll do some digging on how much I'll regret not buying a LCI 2014 or 2015. I have the money for a newer one and I really don't need to settle so there's that...🤔

[cdmulders]

Originally Posted by WoodButcher1980

Guys I really appreciate all the input. It's tough to sort through a lot of the minutiae on this website. The only discrepancy on this car is that it's a 2013, that's it honestly. It has every feature and then some it seems. I'll do some digging on how much I'll regret not buying a LCI 2014 or 2015. I have the money for a newer one and I really don't need to settle so there's that...🤔

Just in case you are still considering the 2013 535xi, my 535xi, built 08/12 (August 2012) has an NBT iDrive. It is possible that the one you are looking at has NBT as well. My last 7 on VIN are: DU67718.

Cheers.

[WoodButcher1980]

This one might have it since it is definitely a late 2013, being mid year 2013 build date. Do you think the sales guy would know that or could ask a tech?

[cdmulders]

The sales guy 'should' know.

[wcr3d]

That build date would definitely be NBT.
It looks like it does also have S6NRA, Apps

[WoodButcher1980]

So just to make sure I'm clear.... if it does have NBT that 2013 is as good as a 2014 when it comes to idrive, but lacks the LCI updates or whatever? Sorry for being naive but I haven't looked it up yet. This German jargon is overly complicated...

[WoodButcher1980]

So I did some digging and rereading this long thread..
The 2014 LCI mid model refresh was fairly substantial and I've determined I'll wait it out for a 2014+ based on the features added in the article below. A refresh mid cycle is when all the tweaks come in to play, and I want those tweaks. No settling 😁

https://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=842217

[ezaircon4jc]

Originally Posted by WoodButcher1980

So I did some digging and rereading this long thread..
The 2014 LCI mid model refresh was fairly substantial and I've determined I'll wait it out for a 2014+ based on the features added in the article below. A refresh mid cycle is when all the tweaks come in to play, and I want those tweaks. No settling 😁

https://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=842217

[wcr3d]

Totally up to you.
Now you know what to look for.
Good luck!

[WoodButcher1980]

In case you're bored and want to look at another one, this dealer is willing to go down to $25,200 which is about 500 - $800 under good retail on Blue Book. So as good as you're going to get. It was traded in and sold as certified pre-owned at the 40,000 mile mark, so that's reassuring. It's essentially the same deal as the 2013 if you consider the average of $2,000 of depreciation per year.

2015 M sport. Built in February of 2015 so a late bloomer
head-up display
Comfort Seats of course
Napa leather
LED fog lights,
Harman Kardon speakers.
Of course cold weather and premium packages
Clean Carfax that you can see on the cars.com hyperlink

Let me know if u see any other goodies.

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...aff=share_text


https://www.mdecoder.com/decode/d545951

[WoodButcher1980]

Here are several more pics the dealer sales guy took . looks clean with minimal wear on the driver seat and that's about it. I'm sure the Nappa is going to reflect a little bit more than Dakota.

[ezaircon4jc]

Originally Posted by WoodButcher1980

In case you're bored and want to look at another one, this dealer is willing to go down to $25,200 which is about 500 - $800 under good retail on Blue Book. So as good as you're going to get. It was traded in and sold as certified pre-owned at the 40,000 mile mark, so that's reassuring. It's essentially the same deal as the 2013 if you consider the average of $2,000 of depreciation per year.

2015 M sport. Built in February of 2015 so a late bloomer
head-up display
Comfort Seats of course
Napa leather
LED fog lights,
Harman Kardon speakers.
Of course cold weather and premium packages
Clean Carfax that you can see on the cars.com hyperlink

Let me know if u see any other goodies.

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...aff=share_text


https://www.mdecoder.com/decode/d545951

It's still under CPO warranty, yes? No brainer to me, especially if it has the options you want.

[WoodButcher1980]

I dont know if it has the CPO warranty still. i can ask... i just liked that it was CPO from the previous owner so they had to maintain it to bmw standards.

[ezaircon4jc]

Originally Posted by WoodButcher1980

I dont know if it has the CPO warranty still. i can ask... i just liked that it was CPO from the previous owner so they had to maintain it to BMW standards.

Not necessarily. A lease, sure; warranty extension? Not so much. Pretty much the only thing maintenance wise that would void a warranty is oil changes. That said, IMHO someone caring enough to purchase a CPO car probably takes care of said car. If the car sold a month or so after the production date (2/15) the CPO should be good until 3/20. CPO adds a year with no mileage restriction.

[WoodButcher1980]

i spoke to the sales rep and he said the warranty expired, but its a GMC dealership so.... they wouldnt know. can i call bmw and give them the vin or something?

[johnhva]

My understanding is that BMW CPO terms changed around 2015 so that CPO coverage can only be transferred to a new owner through a BMW dealer resale, not owner-to-owner or by a non-BMW dealer.

[WoodButcher1980]

Patience I say patience!
I think I'll pass on that one above since I kind of want some safety features seeing how I have a newborn and toddler... Blind spot etc. Something with lane change warning I think.

[r2dmax]

Originally Posted by WoodButcher1980

Patience I say patience!
I think I'll pass on that one above since I kind of want some safety features seeing how I have a newborn and toddler... Blind spot etc. Something with lane change warning I think.

I understand safety as far as air bags, etc. But you knew how to drive properly prior to a newborn, yes? Just a thought, not trying to bash but IMO some "safety" features can be as much of a distraction as a phone

[WoodButcher1980]

I can agree with that to some degree. I've read dozens and dozens of posts on this forum and most people agree that basic safety features like blind-spot detection and front Collision warning/mitigation should be standard, not optional. These specific features are not distracting and they have been proven to save lives. I'll leave it at that...and whether they are important to you or not. But it is frustrating trying to find a 70k BMW with something as basic as blind-spot detection when you can find that on a 2012 Ford Festiva.

[WoodButcher1980]

I found one about 6 hours from me that has every single thing on my bucket list except mocha interior and adaptive cruise...so I can live with that.

The catch is that it has 74,000 miles on it. The good news is it's a 2016 so it was probably owned by some traveling sales guy and all freeway miles which is better than stop and go in the city.
I am being emailed the complete service history since the BMW dealership selling it sold it originally and it's a one owner vehicle. It's got brand new tires on it and the brakes are at 75%, more specifically 8mm and 10mm on the pads. I have the sales guy take photos of all four rims and they are in great shape. He said he really didn't see any scratches either.
Honestly my only hesitation is the mileage but in theory highway miles are much better on a car than City driving, so the miles don't tell the whole story. Should this be a concern? FYI Kelley Blue Book on this is $29,000 retail and about $26,000 private party so it's a good deal either way.

2016 m sport
74400 miles
Carbon black ( a lot of people love this color but they say it's hard to keep clean)
Premium pkg
Cold weather pkg
Driver assistant
Driver assistant plus
Heated AND cooled seats
Comfort Seats
Harmon kardon speakers
Led fog lights

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/link/239495530

https://www.mdecoder.com/decode/g252394

[ezaircon4jc]

Originally Posted by WoodButcher1980

I found one about 6 hours from me that has every single thing on my bucket list except mocha interior and adaptive cruise...so I can live with that.

The catch is that it has 74,000 miles on it. The good news is it's a 2016 so it was probably owned by some traveling sales guy and all freeway miles which is better than stop and go in the city.
I am being emailed the complete service history since the BMW dealership selling it sold it originally and it's a one owner vehicle. It's got brand new tires on it and the brakes are at 75%, more specifically 8mm and 10mm on the pads. I have the sales guy take photos of all four rims and they are in great shape. He said he really didn't see any scratches either.
Honestly my only hesitation is the mileage but in theory highway miles are much better on a car than City driving, so the miles don't tell the whole story. Should this be a concern? FYI Kelley Blue Book on this is $29,000 retail and about $26,000 private party so it's a good deal either way.

2016 m sport
74400 miles
Carbon black ( a lot of people love this color but they say it's hard to keep clean)
Premium pkg
Cold weather pkg
Driver assistant
Driver assistant plus
Heated AND cooled seats
Comfort Seats
Harmon kardon speakers
Led fog lights

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/link/239495530

https://www.mdecoder.com/decode/g252394

It's been on their lot for 62 days; that's an ETERNITY for a dealer. Why not offer them something like $23K out-the-door and see what they say. It's not CPO so I would consider a warranty as I've read the transfer cases can be an issue. As you said, the miles shouldn't be an issue as long as the maintenance was up to date.

I LOVE my Carbon Black 535 though it does seem to attract dust. I use Lucas Oil Slick Mist Speed Wax as a detailer and it seems to help with the dust.

[WoodButcher1980]

ya this guy definitely drove a lot but it should have been all highway out in the middle of Kentucky.
heres the carfax. fairly good record history.

https://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistor...&partner=DON_0

whats the typical cost and term length for a extended warranty?