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      09-24-2013, 02:17 AM   #89
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Troll that provider more valuable data than you ?
And you are walking all over dinan, which I love to watch, and enjoy seeing the comeback of "at least I have a warranty". When any other BMS user knows our warranty is as good as theirs..
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Honestly, I'm not slammin' anyone who enjoys buying a luxury performance sedan and spending their own hard earned cash modding it as they see fit to make it go faster. Should be "good, clean fun". But man do some people take this seriously. It's not fun anymore when the attacks become personal.

Maybe if you just wanted to go really, really fast you should have considered a GT-R?
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Honestly, I'm not slammin' anyone who enjoys buying a luxury performance sedan and spending their own hard earned cash modding it as they see fit to make it go faster. Should be "good, clean fun". But man do some people take this seriously. It's not fun anymore when the attacks become personal.

Maybe if you just wanted to go really, really fast you should have considered a GT-R?
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      09-24-2013, 11:22 AM   #92
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Honestly, I'm not slammin' anyone who enjoys buying a luxury performance sedan and spending their own hard earned cash modding it as they see fit to make it go faster. Should be "good, clean fun". But man do some people take this seriously. It's not fun anymore when the attacks become personal.

Maybe if you just wanted to go really, really fast you should have considered a GT-R?
ummmm the point is to take the current platform where it has not been... it has nothing to do with GTR....
i bet after my data, many more people know what exactly this platform is capable off and helped them make a decision on purchase.
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ummmm the point is to take the current platform where it has not been... it has nothing to do with GTR....
i bet after my data, many more people know what exactly this platform is capable off and helped them make a decision on purchase.
Your "data" shows that BMS is more capable than Dinan. Did we not establish this on the N54 platform some 6 years ago? Nothing ground breaking here. Sorry to break it to you, but no ones buying an F10 550xi to go drag racing with. Most will still go with Dinan's tune for "warranty" purposes.
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Your "data" shows that BMS is more capable than Dinan. Did we not establish this on the N54 platform some 6 years ago? Nothing ground breaking here. Sorry to break it to you, but no ones buying an F10 550xi to go drag racing with. Most will still go with Dinan's tune for "warranty" purposes.
i am not just showing what BMS is capable off i am showing what the platform is capable off you don't need to hit up 1/4 to enjoy your car... i just provide data for those who don't go to the strip.
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Your "data" shows that BMS is more capable than Dinan. Did we not establish this on the N54 platform some 6 years ago? Nothing ground breaking here. Sorry to break it to you, but no ones buying an F10 550xi to go drag racing with. Most will still go with Dinan's tune for "warranty" purposes.
i hate to disagree with you and i don't want this to sound mean but i think most ppl go with dinan tune because it's marketed better.

it's really whoever has the best marketing wins. charging a lot for something can be a marketing technique as well. dinan is grossly overpriced and anyone that doesn't agree with that can be classified as blind.

btw, bms and other tunes don't void your warranty. that's just another sales trick they use.

i'm not in any club but i hope i don't get kicked out of said club for expressing my views.
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      09-24-2013, 05:12 PM   #98
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lets just call it like it is...if you want to spend a boatload of money to tune your car by all means go with dinan..if you want to get comparable performance and still have 9k left over to do wheels, suspension, exhaust and some cosmetics go with bms....and warranty my ass it takes 10 minutes to disconnect and reinstall the bms tune and the dealer would never know it was there...
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lets just call it like it is...if you want to spend a boatload of money to tune your car by all means go with dinan..if you want to get comparable performance and still have 9k left over to do wheels, suspension, exhaust and some cosmetics go with bms....and warranty my ass it takes 10 minutes to disconnect and reinstall the bms tune and the dealer would never know it was there...
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back to the real subject of this thread...

I got the P3 boost gauge today and installed it to find that my Dinan Stage 4 is boosting 10 PSI normally with a small spike to 12.5 PSI. Now if this doesn't prove that the tune isn't installed in my car then I don't know what will.

I called Dinan and Dan told me that the car boosts 10 PSI stock and Stage 4 should be up to 15 PSI. We will see......

Going to dealer for re-install next week and then I will report what the car is boosting then.
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back to the real subject of this thread...

I got the P3 boost gauge today and installed it to find that my Dinan Stage 4 is boosting 10 PSI normally with a small spike to 12.5 PSI. Now if this doesn't prove that the tune isn't installed in my car then I don't know what will.

I called Dinan and Dan told me that the car boosts 10 PSI stock and Stage 4 should be up to 15 PSI. We will see......

Going to dealer for re-install next week and then I will report what the car is boosting then.
That sucks that you have to fight and prove yourself that your tune isn't working.. I'd be pissed.
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back to the real subject of this thread...

I got the P3 boost gauge today and installed it to find that my Dinan Stage 4 is boosting 10 PSI normally with a small spike to 12.5 PSI. Now if this doesn't prove that the tune isn't installed in my car then I don't know what will.

I called Dinan and Dan told me that the car boosts 10 PSI stock and Stage 4 should be up to 15 PSI. We will see......

Going to dealer for re-install next week and then I will report what the car is boosting then.

Ahhh, is the 12.5 right near redline? I'm seeing about the same exact peak boost as you per my logs: 10.x PSI in the 4000 RPM, range, 11.x PSI in the 5000 RPM range, then peaking at 12.5-13 above 6000 RPM. When the throttle closes for a shift, it will spike higher, but this is not real boost. Not sure if your boost gauge shows that or not.

Anyway, I emailed Dan at Dinan and he said mine was correct () for stage 2, but higher stages would show more boost... If he told you 15, I still think ~14 would be right for me, unless they have changed the parameters for newer cars. I'm working on a time to schedule re-install for my Stage 2.

Good luck and please keep us posted.
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Ahhh, is the 12.5 right near redline? I'm seeing about the same exact peak boost as you per my logs: 10.x PSI in the 4000 RPM, range, 11.x PSI in the 5000 RPM range, then peaking at 12.5-13 above 6000 RPM. When the throttle closes for a shift, it will spike higher, but this is not real boost. Not sure if your boost gauge shows that or not.

Anyway, I emailed Dan at Dinan and he said mine was correct () for stage 2, but higher stages would show more boost... If he told you 15, I still think ~14 would be right for me, unless they have changed the parameters for newer cars. I'm working on a time to schedule re-install for my Stage 2.

Good luck and please keep us posted.
yes, thats exactly what I am seeing.....

In regard to the boost when shifting, I only had boost gauge for a few hours but I will let you know more when I take the car out this weekend.
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so much headache for so much money spent and piece of mind or is it ?
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so much headache for so much money spent and piece of mind or is it ?
when its fixed and im boosting 15psi as intended, it will all be forgotten.....
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when its fixed and im boosting 15psi as intended, it will all be forgotten.....
keyword "WHEN"
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What a joke

I thought the BMS tune wouldn't show on the P3 boost gauge. Well, I was wrong. I removed the BMS tune and now the car is boosting only 10.2 PSI, STOCK BOOST. This totally gets me so pissed because now I know the Dinan tune was not installed properly.
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I thought the BMS tune wouldn't show on the P3 boost gauge. Well, I was wrong. I removed the BMS tune and now the car is boosting only 10.2 PSI, STOCK BOOST. This totally gets me so pissed because now I know the Dinan tune was not installed properly.
So how long have you been driving around stock thinking the Dinan tune was installed? I would raise some hell about that..
And it also goes to show how butt dynos can be tricked by the mind.
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I thought the BMS tune wouldn't show on the P3 boost gauge. Well, I was wrong. I removed the BMS tune and now the car is boosting only 10.2 PSI, STOCK BOOST. This totally gets me so pissed because now I know the Dinan tune was not installed properly.
So how long have you been driving around stock thinking the Dinan tune was installed? I would raise some hell about that..
And it also goes to show how butt dynos can be tricked by the mind.
About 6months when they re-flashed the software and re-installed the Dinan.

Dinan should include a boost gauge for $500 when they do a tune for $10,000. It's not like I would say no to the extra $500 when I just spent $10k.

Dinan should be better than this.
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keyword "WHEN"
LOL....

I have a P3 gauge and boost 14.8 psi all day long.
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