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      08-26-2021, 07:30 AM   #1
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My Car BMW F11 FCI 2016 with Kafas2, Active cruise control+Stop&Go function, Lane departure warning
I bought recently HOD Emulator
My SALAPA
1CA,1CB,1CC,1CD,230,255,2K1,2PA,2TB,2VB,302,316,38 6,3AC,3AG,423,430,431,456,488,494,4AT,4U2,502,508, 534,548,5AC,5AD,5AG,5AS,5DF,609,698,6AC,6AE,843,851,877,886,8KA,8S3,8TF,8TH,8 TL,8TN

I Changed to
1CA,1CB,1CC,1CD,230,255,2K1,2PA,2TB,2VB,302,316,38 6,3AC,3AG,423,430,431,456,488,494,4AT,4U2,502,508, 534,548,5AC,5AD,5AG,5AR,5AT,609,698,6AC,6AE,843,851,877,886,8KA,8S3,8TF,8TH,8 TL,8TN

When I Push TJA button (ACC Down), It shows that the system is activated. But after a while, it writes an error and turns it off, and the error after 2 sec disappears.

It also does not work for me PPS (Pedestrian protection system).
And SLI (SPEED LIMIT INFO) does not recognize signs.

Maybe someone has Cheat sheet for F10 where PPS, SLI and TJA
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      08-26-2021, 09:35 AM   #2
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Which emulator did you buy?
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      08-26-2021, 12:58 PM   #3
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TJA HOD Traffic jam Assistant For BMW Steering Wheel ACC Free Touch Emulator.

I have steering wheel without hand sensor, and it imitates it
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      08-26-2021, 05:19 PM   #4
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I was just looking at an older thread, and you might have messed up your FA coding a little bit. Even though 5AT is supposed to be 5AS+5DF, it seems it uses a different radar and so might not function properly. This would explain why you lost some features after removing the 5AS.
https://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=846441

As for your TJA HOD emulator, despite what the internet says they are NOT all the same. I had one from Quidzel and it did exactly that on my F10 (worked for few seconds and threw an error). It was perfectly compatible with F15 and i3, but not F10/F11. I ended up with different module from marvel.marv and it worked without a hitch. All I did is added 5AR to my FA, no other changes (F10 LCI '15).

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Here is some more information from the 2014 Model Update brochure. Depending on the original equipment of your car you may or may not be able to add 5AT
  1. The Driver Assistance Package (ZDA) is now Driver Assistance Plus (ZDB). Pricing has not changed ($1,900).
  2. Option 5AS Active Driving Assistant replaces 5AD Lane Departure Warning in the Driver Assistance Plus Package (ZDB). 5AS includes Lane Departure Warning functionality, but has been expanded with the addition of pedestrian warning and approach control warning with light city braking.
  3. Option 5AT ACC Stop and Go + Active Driving Assistant replaces 5DF Active Cruise Control and now includes the additional functionality of approach control warning with full braking. 5AT also includes the Lane Departure Warning functionality now offered in option 5AS Active Driving Assistant and is offered as an upgrade to 5AS within the Driver Assistance Plus Package (ZDB) for an additional charge of $1,200. As a stand-alone option, 5AT pricing is $1,900 (previously $2,400 as option 5DF).

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      08-26-2021, 10:29 PM   #5
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PPS and SLI not worked before coding.. Not after adding 5AT.
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Lane Departure Warning started work after I change it to Sarah sarah_vollkonzept, I don't know what Sarah means... 😆

So you think hod Emulator not work with f10 series?
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      08-27-2021, 12:58 AM   #6
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I know some HOD emulators work with F10/F11 but not all of them. I never used the one you got.
Have you tried checking with the seller to see if they ever sold one to F10 customer?

You can also try Google to find a thread on making your own TJA HOD emulator which is known to work on F10 - that's how I found mine.
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When I start TJA it works 1 sec, and starts steering after next car
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      08-27-2021, 02:22 PM   #8
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This is all my errors
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      08-27-2021, 08:47 PM   #9
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That's beyond my knowledge so I can't help you. The shift paddle error might mean you have a connection problem with the HOD TJA module (same harness), but the rest does not seem related.
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      08-31-2021, 02:15 AM   #10
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Maybe someone know how to fix
030852 Driver assistance: system limits extended for test operation
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      09-05-2021, 09:18 PM   #11
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030852 Driver assistance: system limits extended for test operation
To me that sounds like you've coded TJA to be operating at beyond 37mph Or on all roads.

TJA is supposed to only work under 37mph o highways and disengages after that speed. But some folks like to code jt to work at higher speed and on all roads which shows up as test operation mode with the error.
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      10-05-2021, 03:19 PM   #12
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Hey mixuil, have you got anywhere with this retrofit?
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      10-15-2021, 03:55 AM   #13
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Hey mixuil, have you got anywhere with this retrofit?
Nope, I returned item back
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      10-20-2021, 04:09 PM   #14
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Folks, I've done this retrofit, I've just been too busy to check here but this isn't as hard as it seems. One thing to keep in mind is this is only possible with LCI components (LCI Radar and LCI ICM 5.4). Similarly, ICM, ACC, KOMBI, NBT, SZL all need to be coded. Of course your car also has to have a full/complete functioning ACC setup (Radar, DSC, ICM) I followed the TJA retrofit guide here: https://www.bimmerfest.com/threads/d...t-tja.1382749/
I got the HOD module from eBay : https://www.ebay.com/itm/12436521480...MAAOSwsu9fFRn7

Regarding the error, I'm pretty sure that is because the coding was modified to operate beyond 37mph.
The error after a short period of time points to coding related issue. Please do review the thread.
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      10-27-2021, 09:18 AM   #15
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Forgot to ask: was your car RWD or xDrive?
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Forgot to ask: was your car RWD or xDrive?
RWD, But I’m guessing you’re asking the OP.

Based on his VIN in the ISTA screenshot, its a 520d non xi
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      11-01-2021, 11:31 PM   #17
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Forgot to ask: was your car RWD or xDrive?
RWD, But I'm guessing you're asking the OP.

Based on his VIN in the ISTA screenshot, its a 520d non xi
Yes, I was wondering about the OP. Still not sure why he couldn't get it to work.
I know yours is a RWD - you sent me on the path to figure my upgrade out!
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