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      07-24-2019, 03:49 PM   #1
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Retrofit M5 f10 cluster on 523i

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i just want to ask if anyone can help me to retrofit a m5 cluster to my car
and help me with the coding or give me instructions on how to code it
like this one on the photo


is it possible like this guy just did
https://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=786565



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      07-26-2019, 08:40 AM   #2
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I did it and it works. I also did shifter too.
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I did it and it works. I also did shifter too.
is this very time consuming? do you have an HUD?



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I did it and it works. I also did shifter too.
Can you help me doing it cause I'm new to these stuff

just give me the steps and ill figure it out
or the values that need to be changed

and how did you write the vin number to the cluster

Thanks
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I did it and it works. I also did shifter too.
Can you help me doing it cause I'm new to these stuff

just give me the steps and ill figure it out
or the values that need to be changed

and how did you write the vin number to the cluster

Thanks
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I have both M5 and N20. I did HUD, Shifter and Cluster. I spent like 4 months to figure out. These are the pictures[IMG][/IMG]
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I did it and it works. I also did shifter too.
Can you help me doing it cause I'm new to these stuff

just give me the steps and ill figure it out
or the values that need to be changed

and how did you write the vin number to the cluster

Thanks
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I have both M5 and N20. I did HUD, Shifter and Cluster. I spent like 4 months to figure out. These are the pictures[IMG][/IMG]
If you retrofittted HUD doesn't that mean you would have to change the whole dash ? haha
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I did it and it works. I also did shifter too.
Can you help me doing it cause I'm new to these stuff

just give me the steps and ill figure it out
or the values that need to be changed

and how did you write the vin number to the cluster

Thanks
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I have both M5 and N20. I did HUD, Shifter and Cluster. I spent like 4 months to figure out. These are the pictures[IMG][/IMG]
yeah I think I came across your build. you went all in! like middle console and everything did you not? pretty sick, in my opinion. regardless of what people think!
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If you retrofittted HUD doesn't that mean you would have to change the whole dash ? haha
no, I just coded HUD, replaced Cluster and the shifter
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yeah I think I came across your build. you went all in! like middle console and everything did you not? pretty sick, in my opinion. regardless of what people think!
yes, I built a complete M5 in my backyard. Car is for sale for anyone interested !
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Sorry to resurect and old thread.

bmwf10projects any chance you could share the love mate?

I have an f25 (2tm 8speed sport tranny) and can pick up an m6 kombi up cheap, any help on how you did this would be great.
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I would love to hear more about this too, I’m getting no gear position display at all and transmission error code..
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I would love to hear more about this too, I’m getting no gear position display at all and transmission error code..
Notice how their photo shows no gear. This is because it is not possible to get gear information on a non-M5 car, as the gear information comes from an entirely different ECU that non-M5 cars don't even have.
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I am working on this as we speak, waiting for some harness pigtails to come in to connect additional wires to icm and dme, &dme2.

The problem is not the cluster itself as the wiring to it is the same across the board, it’s the gear shifter and dynamic control board that has to be rewired. I’ve done a lot of research on this and looked at wiring more then I’d like to admit, M5 Cluster is not enough for a fully functioning retrofit. This is where most make a mistake trying to get the cluster to work with some random coding in E-Sue to hide gear shift errors, etc.
will make a post or reply here once I’m done as most people who have tried have either failed or do not respond.

There is a YouTube video of a guy from overseas retrofitting gear shifter and controls but he’s using 6WB cluster not M5 one so no issues there. I don’t see the point of this really without the cluster, but to each their own.
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I am working on this as we speak, waiting for some harness pigtails to come in to connect additional wires to icm and dme, &dme2.

The problem is not the cluster itself as the wiring to it is the same across the board, it’s the gear shifter and dynamic control board that has to be rewired. I’ve done a lot of research on this and looked at wiring more then I’d like to admit, M5 Cluster is not enough for a fully functioning retrofit. This is where most make a mistake trying to get the cluster to work with some random coding in E-Sue to hide gear shift errors, etc.
will make a post or reply here once I’m done as most people who have tried have either failed or do not respond.

There is a YouTube video of a guy from overseas retrofitting gear shifter and controls but he’s using 6WB cluster not M5 one so no issues there. I don’t see the point of this really without the cluster, but to each their own.
Yep, needs a bunch of wiring work as you mentioned. If you can get the gear information correctly to the cluster, it'll work. That is what I meant, apologies if I was unclear.
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I just did a video of mine, all working.. This took a lot off work and coding, but really an amazing outcome..

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Amazing mate. Can’t wait to see what’s needed.

I have a m5 cluster and gear shift ready to go. Hoping it will work in my f25.
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I try retrofit m5 panel
But original HUD not show nothing
Anyone can help?
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Thinking about doing this. To anyone who has successfully done this retrofit, please let me know what needs to be coded because I assume its not just PNP.
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      12-29-2023, 09:56 AM   #19
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No, not PNP for sure lol.

Do a lot of research, it can be done it's just how much work are you willing to put into it to get it working?
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hi, the video is no longer valid, can you give me some details on how to get my gears to appear on the dashboard? I too have a F13 640i and have M6 cluster . Thanks
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You cannot code gears into the cluster to show up, I’ve done extensive work and research and we just don’t have the hardware on non-M models to make that happen.

This requires a physical hardware adapter to get to work.

Do a search on f30 m3/m4 cluster adapter and that’s what you need, it’s about $350.

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I kept trying to search, but I can't find it available…
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