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04-18-2023, 04:34 AM | #1 |
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Chinese car makers are eating German designers' lunch
I just saw the Chinese-owned new MG cyberster design. Wow.
Meanwhile, Geely-owned Lotus smashed it out of the park with the Emira. BMW designers used to get this kind of credit. Now they release horrendous gape-jawed insectoid monstrosities and we find ourselves defending the design to justify our passion for the brand's previous designs. I think the days of laughing at Chinese owned car designs are past us. In the course of even 5 years, the tables have been turned. |
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Obviously you have never looked at a G29 Z4. It has beautiful lines and definitely not a horrendous gape-jawed insectoid monstrosity.
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We used to laugh at their quality, and their quirky designs (still designed for their own people, but brought to these shores). Now that they are designed for Americans and the quality has come up to par there is nothing left to laugh at. Maybe parts availability. |
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Given the track record of industrial spying the Chinese have I don't know how much credit I would give them for design.
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China is the largest single auto market now. GM and Ford are starting to assemble cars in China for sale in the U.S. All car companies are paying attention to what happens in China, including or especially the Germans. Ford and GM are shadows of their former selves and Chrysler is effectively no more.
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04-18-2023, 06:51 PM | #8 | |
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If ppl didn't steal or learn from the Chinese, many would still be living in caves.
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04-19-2023, 01:22 PM | #9 |
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04-20-2023, 03:09 PM | #11 |
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04-20-2023, 04:08 PM | #12 |
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Yawn. The "horrendous gape-jawed insectoid monstrosities" have catapulted BMW to the global luxury car sales crown two years running. The only tables that have turned is the amount of old men yelling at clouds who are being replaced by new generations of BMW owners that are perfectly happy that their new BMW doesn't look like a 20 year old BMW. Out with the old, in with the new.
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they are the masters of copy, their methods are unprecendented - with BMW design, prices and touch screen HVAC I have a feeling my next car will be one of these
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04-22-2023, 05:23 PM | #14 |
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When you can steal tech and design without repercussions then sure, you get an advantage.
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everything is there like an open book blueprints, material, methodology, computers, even the robots that build the stuff are all there to be touched in person. just pay the factory manager and get a master access card and login and away you go. if you want you can even build another exact factory next door and make your own VBM |
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As for the rest of BMWs lineup, outside of the X5M and M5s which are still knockout gorgeous, the lineup is pretty horrid. The G80/82 disaster just looks worse and worse with time, and the G87 only looks representable in black. Enjoy the Z4! |
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04-23-2023, 09:59 AM | #18 |
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Which is why the G29 will be discontinued and not live to see a next-generation model. BMW designers will not allow further production of cars that not a horrendous gape-jawed insectoid monstrosity. Not in their house!
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04-23-2023, 10:04 AM | #19 |
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Get real, you know that this nothing to do with looks. Roadsters are a dying breed at the major auto makers as it is a matter of SUV’s dominating sales.
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04-23-2023, 10:18 AM | #20 |
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I think the 'get real' comment applies back to you. I was poking fun that BMW won't allow further production of good looking cars. I liked the looks of all generations of the Z4.
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04-23-2023, 10:41 AM | #22 | |
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I'm saying this because this China bashing sometimes goes too far and the unfortunate result is more hate crimes against Asians (not from China) continues unabated. |
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