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      07-30-2021, 08:15 AM   #111
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He didn't.
Max turned his steering wheel because a 300kph+ corner was coming up
(corner...means the straight ends.... means turning the steering wheel....)


He left room for HAM.
HAM decided to not use that room. The FIA was very clear on that.

You can also see that in the difference in how HAM placed his car in Copse when he tried to overtake Max and how he tried to overtake LEC.
Guess he’s gonna have to learn to back off from time to time as some aren’t going to take his crap even when HAM is gone. Namely Russel, Leclerc and Lando I’m guessing.

Where was the gotcha evidence for FIA from RB you guys were promising?
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Guess he’s gonna have to learn
I guess VER learned that HAM is willing to make moves that could kill others in order to win...

I'm sure VER can just as well clip HAM rear wheel sending him off in the tyre wall.
Too bad no 300+kph corners are coming up anymore in this racing season.


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I didn't promise anything?
If one Max fan says something, its attributed to anyone who doesn't root against Max. It's how some of these folk's logic works, unfortunately...
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I guess VER learned that HAM is willing to make moves that could kill others in order to win...

I'm sure VER can just as well clip HAM rear wheel sending him off in the tyre wall.
Too bad no 300+kph corners are coming up anymore in this racing season.




I didn't promise anything?
Keep playing the Max is always the victim and has never put anyone else danger with his aggressive driving. It’s on video evidence that he’s done it a number of times over the years. You drive aggressively your whole career like he has and incidents like this are going to happen.

You are part of the same group of RB fanboys that were hoping and promoting that they had a chance for a more severe penalty for HAM. You can see it in your wording in this post for that matter.
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Keep playing the Max is always the victim and has never put anyone else danger with his aggressive driving. It’s on video evidence that he’s done it a number of times over the years.
This time it was the other way round.
And if you look at the past 3 years, HAM got way way more penalty points on his superlicense.


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You are part of the same group of RB fanboys that were hoping and promoting that they had a chance for a more severe penalty for HAM. You can see it in your wording in this post for that matter.
I'm part of no group and didn't promise anything.
Either learn to read or get a pair of glasses.
But stop spreading nonsense on a personal basis.
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He didn't.
Max turned his steering wheel because a 300kph+ corner was coming up
(corner...means the straight ends.... means turning the steering wheel....)


He left room for HAM.
HAM decided to not use that room and didn't follow a racing line. The FIA was very clear on that.

You can also see that in the difference in how HAM placed his car in Copse when he tried to overtake Max and how he tried to overtake LEC.
Exactly right GuidoK only an oaf of ginormous proportion would say that Max 'turned into him' OMW some haven't a tsetse ass fly clue.
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This time it was the other way round.
And if you look at the past 3 years, HAM got way way more penalty points on his superlicense.




I'm part of no group and didn't promise anything.
Either learn to read or get a pair of glasses.
But stop spreading nonsense on a personal basis.
Yes let’s just wipe away history and that fact that FIA has chosen not penalize him the last few years on things we’ve also shown on video here. Namely the Spa incident and his contact with Stroll in practice no less IIRC.

Learn to read your own posts and the loaded words you say that you don’t take responsibility for. You’ve made this plenty personal with similar words to me and others in this thread a number of times so stop trying to play the victim to.

Edit: in mainly in the Silverstone thread.
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This time it was the other way round.
And if you look at the past 3 years, HAM got way way more penalty points on his superlicense.




I'm part of no group and didn't promise anything.
Either learn to read or get a pair of glasses.
But stop spreading nonsense on a personal basis.
I'm for McLaren (Norris & Ric) and Vettel, and I get the same unfounded hostility all the time
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I'm for McLaren (Norris & Ric) and Vettel, and I get the same unfounded hostility all the time
Funny same here, I’m not really a HAM fan but I get the hostility from you guys and your buddies that I am. I definitely respect him for what he’s done in his career though and don’t have hostility towards him or give a shit how he dresses like you do.

And your logic is on full display in multiple threads for all to see.
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Yes let’s just wipe away history and that fact that FIA has chosen not penalize him the last few years on things we’ve also shown on video here. Namely the Spa incident and his contact with Stroll in practice no less IIRC.
Both incidents are completely different.
Max left enough room on the inside in Copse to fit almost 2 cars.
In Spa RAI just steered in. Max was inbetween him and a pit wall. there was nowhere to go.
Same in the portugese GP. STR just steered in, no room for another car. I don't think STR ever saw VER, despite driving 3 or 4 seconds almost next to him.
So completely different situations.

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You learn to read my post and tell me where exactly I "promised evidence against HAM".
So where exactly did I say that?

Exactly.....NOWHERE!
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Funny same here, I’m not really a HAM fan but I get the hostility from you guys and your buddies that I am. I definitely respect him for what he’s done in his career though and don’t have hostility towards him or give a shit how he dresses like you do.

And your logic is on full display in multiple threads for all to see.
The Red Bull, etc group here is more fun to interact with.

It's kind of shocking that fans of a 7x WDC have such a persecution complex
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Both incidents are completely different.


You learn to read my post and tell me where exactly I "promised evidence against HAM".
So where exactly did I say that?

Exactly.....NOWHERE!
It doesn’t have to be explicitly stated and you know that. Your own post about him almost killing him etc. Grow up, Max could’ve killed Kimi in Spa and severally injured Stroll if that went different. Every one knows racing, especially F1 is extremely dangerous. You support almost everything the other say without question when it comes to Max and RB. Stop whining and and always playing the victim like all of them do.

It’s funny to because unless Max does something stupid or had a mechanical issue in Hungary he should run away with it. Same with the WDC so maybe you guys should focus on that?
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The Red Bull, etc group here is more fun to interact with.

It's kind of shocking that fans of a 7x WDC have such a persecution complex
You complain about one thing and do the exact same a post later. More great logic!

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It doesn’t have to be explicitly stated and you know that.
What do you mean "it doesn't have to be explicitly stated"?!?
Yes it does!

You make an explicit statement that I said something that I didn't say!
Now you have to back up that claim.
If you can't back up that claim, it would make it a lie I guess


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Your own post about him almost killing him etc. Grow up, Max could’ve killed Kimi in Spa
SPA wasn't VER fault. And he didn't get penalized for it.
And in la source they drive what? 50?
IT's about the slowest corner in F1 where Copse is the fastest corner.
I can't believe you don't understand the difference between that! 50kph or 300+kph.
Have you ever driven 300kph? Do you have any idea how fast that is?

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and severally injured Stroll if that went different.
Again, STR didn't leave room for VER on the inside where VER did leave room for HAM on the inside (and then some room to spare....)

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Every one knows racing, especially F1 is extremely dangerous.
YEs everyone knows it's dangerours. That's why you get penalty points if you make a dangerous move.
And HAM has a lot more points on his superlicense than VER.
In fact VER has ZERO points on his license currently.
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What do you mean "it doesn't have to be explicitly stated"?!?
Yes it does!

You make an explicit statement that I said something that I didn't say!
Now you have to back up that claim.
If you can't back up that claim, it would make it a lie I guess



SPA wasn't VER fault. And he didn't get penalized for it.
And in la source they drive what? 50?
IT's about the slowest corner in F1 where Copse is the fastest corner.
I can't believe you don't understand the difference between that! 50kph or 300+kph.
Have you ever driven 300kph? Do you have any idea how fast that is?


Again, STR didn't leave room for VER on the inside where VER did leave room for HAM on the inside (and then some room to spare....)


YEs everyone knows it's dangerours. That's why you get penalty points if you make a dangerous move.
And HAM has a lot more points on his superlicense than VER.
In fact VER has ZERO points on his license currently.
Do I really need to repost the video where Max continues driving up Eau Rouge knowing he can’t steer the car and barely misses Kimi going up the hill? What do think would’ve happened there had he tapped him? What are you hip now and with it kids saying? He was driving like a Mong?

The rest is gibberish spoken by a person with RB glasses shading his vision.

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Both Ham and Vettel are now sticking their noses into Hungary's political business. It's none of their F* business to publicly speak out while driving in a different country on a subject that concerns a lot of childrens parents.

Are you a child? You constantly act like one and post like one, but this is one of your worst takes yet. If they want it to be their business, its their business. They have a platform and they can use it to speak about whatever they want to speak about. If they want to pick up trash for 8 hours after a race, awesome. If they want to dress in a way that doesnt impress you, its their prerogative. If they want to make comments about how a country deals with social issues, it is also completely up to them to do that. Have some respect for your fellow humans and grow as a person instead of being stuck in the 1920s.
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Are you a child? You constantly act like one and post like one, but this is one of your worst takes yet. If they want it to be their business, its their business. They have a platform and they can use it to speak about whatever they want to speak about. If they want to pick up trash for 8 hours after a race, awesome. If they want to dress in a way that doesnt impress you, its their prerogative. If they want to make comments about how a country deals with social issues, it is also completely up to them to do that. Have some respect for your fellow humans and grow as a person instead of being stuck in the 1920s.
Well said.
All that is required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. -widely attributed to Edmund Burke.

I might add, ..."and for those others observing it, to make excuses for said evil behavior."
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Are you a child? You constantly act like one and post like one, but this is one of your worst takes yet. If they want it to be their business, its their business. They have a platform and they can use it to speak about whatever they want to speak about. If they want to pick up trash for 8 hours after a race, awesome. If they want to dress in a way that doesnt impress you, its their prerogative. If they want to make comments about how a country deals with social issues, it is also completely up to them to do that. Have some respect for your fellow humans and grow as a person instead of being stuck in the 1920s.
Making on observation on the ridiculousness of his outfit in no way implies he's got no right to dress however he wants. What a weird take.
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Are you a child? You constantly act like one and post like one, but this is one of your worst takes yet. If they want it to be their business, its their business. They have a platform and they can use it to speak about whatever they want to speak about. If they want to pick up trash for 8 hours after a race, awesome. If they want to dress in a way that doesnt impress you, its their prerogative. If they want to make comments about how a country deals with social issues, it is also completely up to them to do that. Have some respect for your fellow humans and grow as a person instead of being stuck in the 1920s.
You ought to be asking that yourself, there is a time and place for everything but not when I'm into an F1 race.
Politics and sport don't mix only self prioritising creeps do it.
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Both Ham and Vettel are now sticking their noses into Hungary's political business. It's none of their F* business to publicly speak out while driving in a different country on a subject that concerns a lot of childrens parents.
Agree. Let Politicians stick to Politics, they don't ask to drive F1 cars, do they. When I watch an F1 Race, all I want to see is racing. There is already more than plenty of politics outside of racing.
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You ought to be asking that yourself, there is a time and place for everything but not when I'm into an F1 race.
Politics and sport don't mix only self prioritising creeps do it.
In light of this, you think he's willing to admit racism really isn't anywhere as prevalent as we've been led to believe?

‘It’s the first time I felt I didn’t stand alone’ – Hamilton calls F1 community support over racist messages ‘amazing’
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In light of this, you think he's willing to admit racism really isn't anywhere as prevalent as we've been led to believe?

‘It’s the first time I felt I didn’t stand alone’ – Hamilton calls F1 community support over racist messages ‘amazing’
I would think it's for self promotion and completely blown out of proportion for his own misplaced use.
I was born in Brixton, S.London and have never had any issues with the multi cultural community.
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