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11-15-2010, 06:11 AM | #1 |
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German test of various F10 cars
The German automagazine Auto Motor und Sport have tested various F10 cars.
This is the 0-100km/h figures: 523i 8,4 sek 528i 7,0 sek 535i 6,1 sek 550i GT 5,7 sek 520d 8,3 sek (man) 525d 7,1 sek 530d 6,7 sek 535d 6,1 sek (GT) This is 100-180km/h 523i 19,4 sek 528i 13,4 sek 535i 12,6 sek 550i GT 9,4 sek 520d 23,2 sek (man) 525d 18,2 sek 530d 14,8 sek 535d GT 13,1 sek This is the consumption in Liters per 100km 523i 11,1 l 528i 11,4 l 535i 12,3 l 550i GT 15,8 l 520d 7,8 l (man) 525d 8,9 l 530d 9,3 l 535d GT 11,1 l Interestingly the 528i is faster that the 530D 100-180km/h and almost as fast as the 535i. The 535D takes a lot of fuel. |
11-15-2010, 06:58 AM | #2 |
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Interesting.
The first 2000 kms, my f10 535d is doing 8,5 l. per 100 km, which is worse than expected. But the engine is new of course, so it will probably get better. But 11,1 l. for the 535 GT? That is poor considering the frugality that BMW promises.
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11-15-2010, 10:03 AM | #4 |
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Good information, but may not tell the whole story.
We don't know what options were fitted to each car, (weight penalties), what wheel/tyre sizes (performance and economy penalties), or the mileage covered by each car, (tight vs. free running engine). So we possibly have a corrupted 'comparison' sample, both for fuel consumption and performance figures. HighlandPete |
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11-15-2010, 10:40 AM | #5 |
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I always thought the acceleration difference between the 535i and 528i was larger from 0, and diminishes with speed, these test times even exaggerates the differences
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11-15-2010, 10:51 AM | #6 | |
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good point does the article say what 'mode' it was conducted in? notice the slower 0-100 times for the 523i and 528i .. if the test was conducted in 'normal' transmission mode this could account for the difference, iddling at lower RPM versus the 2000rpm in sport mode, takes the 523i and 528i engines longer to hit their torque peak at 2600rpm. I guess the factory stated performance figures are 'best possible' ones. So you really do have to get drive like a maniac. Wow, the 550i on the GT is fast from 100-200kmh .. but its performance is less outstanding from 0-100. From 0, mass slows the GT and the 550i engine's added weight, but the increased displacement of the 550i really powers it from 100-200. |
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11-15-2010, 02:29 PM | #9 |
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Very Interesting. I'm curious about the small difference in the 100-180km/h between 523i and 535i:
528i 13,4 sec 535i 12,6 sec It's less than a second. I thought that the turbo should give advantage in the high rpm? |
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11-16-2010, 02:33 AM | #14 |
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That's mostly just a feeling because of turbo. I remember test driving E60 2008 530d and 530i. 530d felt much more powerful while in the reality 530i was a quicker car. The F10 528i on this video on autobahn is going slightly uphill and auto transmission is not even in sport mode. Put RON 100 fuel in 528i and RON 95 in 535i and you'll have almost identical cars.
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From my point of view, the figures are not the whole story, it's driveability which dictates which engine suits a user. The engines have totally different characteristics. It's a bit like the old E39 530i vs, 535i debates. The figures don't make the E39 535i worth while to many, but drive the V8 and you see why some owners would opt for it, even if the performance is not dissimilar. Same for an F10 535i vs. 528i and the different torque curves. Totally different 'mid range' feel to the motor. Plus an extra 48bhp does add to the top end. Just one other consideration, the gearing, the ratios are different so acceleration times, particularly in the manual examples can be skewed if one car needs an extra gear change for the incremental time being quoted. Add add another 10 or 20 km/h and it could look different, as the other car may need another gear. We can play with figures all day, to justify one or the other, but I know which I'd rather drive and it has 535i on the badge. HighlandPete |
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The 528i are and 535i are two different animals designed with different characteristics. The 528i is the weaker of the two, but it has a higher redline which translates into more flexibility and fun factor. The 535i has 1/3 more max torque, and the difference is even greater at low rpms, which is why the 535i feels a lot more powerful in normal city driving.
The 528i is a skinny distance runner and the 535i a well-built sprinter, with respective characteristics. On another note, I was looking at data on old cars, did you know the M3 in the 90's was only a 3.0 liter? So basically you have an updated M3 engine from the 90's in your 528, but hauling around 20% more weight. Or compare to the current 4.3l e90 M3, you have 3/4 of the torque and 3/5 of the HP, hauling 100kgs more (and less 1000rpm redline) The point I am trying to make is that the 'weak', linear, high revving nature of the 3.0l NA, you can see where it came from, and how in one of its current homes in the f10 is kind of funny, due to the large size and mass, but the basic engine, though a little weak, retains its 'fun' character. |
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remeber the coke v. pepsi tests back in the 80's? Both are sodas, both are dark in color, both are carbonated and in many ways the ingregients are the same but they taste totally different.
If you had no idea which car was the 535 and which was the 528, only that they were the two cars you were driving, I have absolutely no doubt that you would quickly be able to identify which was which.
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11-16-2010, 01:53 PM | #19 |
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I think the 535 in my opinion should be alot faster then the 528i, but its really not.
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Well, the weight difference between the 528 and the 535 is the equivalent of a passenger, isn't it? That has to detract from the extra HP and torque. I'm sure the 535 is fun to drive. But for me the 528 (like my 328 E92) is more of an expression of BMW's heritage — a normally aspirated in-line 6. What's lamentable, maybe, is the absence of a MT option for US buyers of the 528. What's laudable, though, is the fabulous fuel efficiency of both cars.
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