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1. With the car in D and being held in auto-hold with your foot off the brake, the brake lights remain on. 2. With it still in D, but held by manually activating the parking brake, the lights go off as soon as you release the foot brake. So, 1 and 2 are as you correctly say. However, my car does not react as you explain it with the handbrake applied manually. In this condition it does not "pull away as normal by simply pressing the accelerator without having to disengage the hand/parking/electro-mechanical brake". When I tried this there was no throttle response on pressing the accelerator, the warning gong sounded and there was a warning caption stating that the parking brake should be released, which of course, required the foot brake being actuated before pressing the handbrake release switch - not quite "done automatically and imperceptibly". So, it looks like it's a choice between easy and fluid stop-start with the brake lights on at all times when stationary, or a case of having to manually apply the handbrake then releasing the footbrake, reapplying the footbrake and pressing the handbrake release before you can move off. Looks like I'll be sticking with the first option and to hell with courtesy. |
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It's the idiots with their rear fog lights on that annoy me
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Not so my friend. Have faith and ignore the ever increasing amount of misinformation that is dropping into this thread.
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However, I've described pulling up to a set of traffic lights without auto hold switched on and leaving the car in D. Once stationary at the lights, the hand brake is applied following which the foot brake is released (and at no time is the shift lever touched). Pulling away then does just require a gentle prod of the accelerator and the release of the handbrake is indeed "done automatically and imperceptibly". I do this probably twenty or thirty times a day and have been doing so for the last five months. Incidentally, higher range Audi's have also had this feature for at least the last five years. |
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08-09-2012, 03:14 PM | #51 | |
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With auto hold switched on, I allowed the car to come to a standstill and for auto hold to engage. I then applied the hand brake and found that auto hold not only disengaged but switched off completely. The manual/handbook concurs with this. However and a touch surprisingly, there was actually a slight clunk and shudder as the applied brakes switched over to the electro-mechanically applied brakes (acting on the rear wheels only of course). Whilst this does then allow the car to be held without the brake lights illuminated, it's far from smooth and hardly convenient, as auto hold would have to be switched back on again. |
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08-09-2012, 05:05 PM | #52 | |
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I can only think that the difference between our cars might be due to variations in engines, transmissions or production dates - my car is a Sep '10 535d with sport auto box. |
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08-09-2012, 05:13 PM | #53 |
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Sounds to me like the best option is to leave auto hold off and dab on the electromechanical handbrake when I stop at the lights. (Leaving the car in D).
No brake light and no delay setting off. I'll have a sneaky practice on my drive first tho'...
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08-09-2012, 09:41 PM | #55 |
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I think you are more annoy by the fact that you are stuck in traffic instead of some guy in the front with the brake lights on.
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08-09-2012, 09:58 PM | #56 |
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To me I think the auto H system works the way it was intended to.
Auto H primary function is to helps you to engage your brakes when your car has come to a standstill rather then using your foot. Just think of it this way, you are driving a car without the auto H feature. You are in traffic foot on brake, brake lights on. You use your handbrake to replace the foot brake, brake lights off. It doesn't matter what gear position you are in.
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On reflection, it does seem odd that prodding the throttle would release the "handbrake."
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I have driven an older version of the A6 and they do release the handbrake automatically for you and they also have the auto H function. Let me try on my friend's A5 and tell you the finding when I have a chance.
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I had a 2007 Audi A6 and my dad is on his second A8. All three cars perform the same as my car in this respect. |
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Enjoy the car when you get it; I won't be surprised to hear that it behaves like 'Fat dog's' F11. As he says, this might be due to differences in either production date or 4/6cyl specs.
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"Operate the accelerator to automatically release. LED and indicator turn off. Under the following conditions, the parking brake is automatically released by operating the gas pedal. >Engine on >Drive state engaged >Driver belted in and doors closed" Does not differentiate between 4 and 6 cylinder cars. So differenece between my car and Jon D's / AC_S5's, must be due to production dates then. Jon D - I suppose you will have an absence of similar text in your owner's handbook/manual? Mine is "BMW 5 Series Touring, English VIII/11, 09 11 490". |
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You're correct in that there's a handbook textual difference; under 'Releasing' my manual states: "Automatic gearbox: Press the switch with the brake pressed or gearbox position P engaged." Glad we got that sorted out - as I said earlier, looks like I'll be sticking with auto-hold and to hell with courtesy . |
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Me too. But what I find most surprising is that, despite over 1200 views of this thread, we only canvassed one alternative opinion (thanks AC_S5) and so we still had to refer to our respective manuals to categorically put this to rest.......Although, could the difference be saloon v estate?
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I was thinking more of a safety regulations so maybe for prior year model the electronic e brakes will disengage itself when you press the gas. On newer models it wouldn't. I m just curious myself, since you don't think it will help, it's alright then.
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